| Name: Dave Sass Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: South Africa Time: 1998-12-31 18:25:11 Comments: Ever since the early 80's, Talk Talk had always been my best "new wave" band. I still have my complete TT collection of vinyls. (Living in South Africa limits a lot of merchandise, because of all those sanctions and poor record industry). But I do have quite a lot of stuff that I had imported from the UK etc. Still I value Talk Talk Material has far more superior than any other band because of the depth in each song. Mark, thanks for a great band. I'm trying to get hold of the solo album, but do you think I can in this place? Cheers, Dave |
| Name: Cally Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Suffolk Time: 1998-12-29 19:25:55 Comments: I noticed that my e-mail address did not print on my message. It is: cally@antart.demon.co.uk |
| Name: Cally Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Suffolk Time: 1998-12-29 19:21:26 Comments: Some years back I designed the game Go:Rang that was invented by Lee Harris to co-incide with the release of Fields And Waves. Although the record company took some as promo items we found that we have quite a few left. The game is utterly unique, and involves dice. We were thinking of selling the rest over the internet for about Ģ4.50 and I'm interested to find out how many people will be interested in buying them.. 1999 will see the release of at least two new ORANG albums in much the same fashion. Cally |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-12-23 21:25:51 Comments: Re: Phill L. - Indeed he was!!!!! Andrew Smith, Chief rock critic 1. MARK HOLLIS |
| Name: Phill
Laycock Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-12-23 14:03:31 Comments: Just read in the Sunday Times dated 21 Dec, Mark Hollis was voted best rock record of the year by it's chief rock critic. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sussex England Time: 1998-12-22 21:06:21 Comments: Happy Christmas to you all. It has been fun using this site over the last year. Congratulations Henrik. Keep up the good work.Cheeeeers all. |
| Name: Anthony
Swain Website: Referred by: InfoSeek From: Time: 1998-12-18 18:31:31 Comments: Have just read Mark Hollis's Within Without interview and frankly I cannot blame MH his abruptness. Many of the questions were, in truth, plain intrusive, generally showing lack of sympathy for both artist and art. (I know, if *I* were stuck in a lift for five minutes with MH, there'd be more interesting things to talk about than whether 'Myrrhman' is a pun on 'Mirror Man' [some things are *meant* to go unanswered.] I might even show enough respect not to ask anything.) As already stated on a previous posting (Charles from Paris), much of the attraction of TT & MH is the anonymity of Hollis et al. No 'artist' owes their 'fanbase' anything, particularly one that calls itself a 'fanbase.' I suggest we show the same respect for MH that the man has done for his audience over his musical career. *Eternal* thanks nonetheless to Henrik for going to the trouble to arrange the whole Q&A thing -- and for forwarding my question in particular. If nothing else, the interview is an amusing insight into MH's level of tolerance. (Did we *really* want to hear MH's views on the musical aesthetics of silence one more time?) A.S. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-12-17 17:32:34 Comments: Re: Marz. "London '86" will be distributed through Voiceprint. You can visit them at www.voiceprint.co.uk |
| Name: marz Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: toronto Time: 1998-12-17 15:39:16 Comments: Henrik, I think I remember reading that the new live album will not be released through EMI....if that's true, who/how is it being released? |
| Name: Brad
Birzer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: San Antonio, Texas Time: 1998-12-17 06:15:37 Comments: Interesting on the FIELDS AND WAVES. I've got the American HITIT RECORDS release and mine has a clear case. The picture behind the CD is the CD being placed into some kind of cold war-looking machine by a gloved hand. Is it the same with the non-American release? Brad. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-12-16 20:14:32 Comments: Re: Brendan. Interesting observations! I wonder if the CD tray should have been transperent like with most other recent releases? And your second question ... I guess there's only one who can answer that. The guy who left message no. 216! Come on, Lee. Tell us! :-) |
| Name: CalleH Website: Referred by: Other search engine From: Sweden Time: 1998-12-16 03:43:57 Comments: I realize Iīm a bit late commenting on "the worlds shortest interview" with MH , but I just read it...(sigh). Honestly , Iīd preferred it if he hadnīt answered the questions at all. As it is , the man just manages to come across as a total prick , and I canīt see his reasons for wanting to do that in front of people who actually listens to his music regularly and admires him for his work. Not the press or some ordinary reviewer but his so called fans. To quote himself: ??? You deserve a huge credit for trying , thanks a lot , but I would probably leave him alone from now on , since that seems to be his highest wish... Thanks again for one of the best sites on the net:-)) |
| Name: Matt Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: USA Time: 1998-12-15 05:27:43 Comments: A huge I'M SORRY to anyone who may have been trying to help me locate a copy of 'Again A Game . . Again' I left a wrong e-mail address. Here's the correct one: Rainyday@access.webcombo.net Thanks ~Matt |
| Name: Brendan
Jones Website: Brendan Jones Home Page Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Australia Time: 1998-12-14 07:36:10 Comments: I discovered something neat recently with the 'O'Rang "Fields And Waves" CD. Pop the brown CD tray out of the jewel box and have a look at the liner! Very clever! Also, has anyone ever traced out on a map the sequence of "points" from 1 to 13 given in the liner notes? The latitude, longitude and elevation of each point are given (except for the stop in the London Underground). Does anyone have any ideas as to the significance of the path taken? |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-12-06 20:15:59 Comments: I know we've discussed James Marsh's artwork in the past, but I was wondering what everyone made of the Heligoland artwork for the Creosote & Tar EP ?... |
| Name: Molly Website: Molly's Pages Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY USA Time: 1998-12-01 16:39:48 Comments: I just recently got Fields and Waves from O'Rang, and I love it. I thought I would not like it, becaus it was techno, but it's really wonderful. Paul Webb and Lee Harris are very talented. Does anybody know if there are any videos from O'Rang? I would love to see Paul Webb. He's surprising good as a singer. Also, I've changed my address for my web site. It's http://www.angelfire.com/mo/mollyfa/index.html. Go and sign my guestbook while you're there. |
| Name: Matt
Anderson Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Milwaukee, Wi. Time: 1998-11-30 03:43:15 Comments: Hey, Folks! I'm looking for a copy of 'Again A Game . . . Again' I once owned it but it got lost during my divorce7 years ago. Would love to own it again . . .Help! |
| Name: Randy
Wickersham Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Hyannis MA Time: 1998-11-28 05:09:54 Comments: HelloJust spent Thanksgiving Holidaymaking an ultra rare Talk TalkCD compilation that includes:Stump,5.09,After the Flood(outake) and much more.Will be glad to trade for anyTalk Talk material I don't have.Thanks,RandyE-mailanotherno1@webtv.net |
| Name: PORCARIA Website: o Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: o Time: 1998-11-28 04:40:57 Comments: Talvez a beleza do trabalha seja o lado pessoal tão forte mostrado na sua música. Talvez disso seja feita a discografia do Talk Talk e do Mark Hollis também. Um banda de amigos que tocam com gosto? E se divertem também. Semelhanįa com o jazz? |
| Name: Lee Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-11-27 19:59:00 Comments: Hey ! CALL.O.MAN, POWERED UP! |
| Name: Brad
Birzer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Texas, USA Time: 1998-11-25 15:14:41 Comments: Henrik--just want to say thanks for putting Kevin McCormick's music up. He deserves to be in a league with Hollis, and it was great of you to do so. I also wanted to say that I thought Hollis's interview was fine. I guess I wasn't expecting anything more. Any more would've destroyed the mystery. And, the brevity seems to fit his personality. He's the J.D. Salinger (well, not quite, considering no one's heard from Salinger for years) of the music world. Brad. |
| Name: RANDY
WICKERSHAM Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: hyannis,ma Time: 1998-11-25 04:57:53 Comments: Just a quick line to thank you for a great TT web site.Spirt of Eden and Laughing Stockrate as my 2 faves of all time.Today current "artist"? dream ofcreating anything half as brilliant.congrats all for your sterling taste! |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-11-24 19:15:58 Comments: To those of you who expected to get a copy of Natural History from me, I am very sorry, but my original has been destroyed by the video!!!!!!!!, all those years of repeated playing has taken its toll and I am now without a copy myself. If I ever get a replacement, I will re-contact you. |
| Name: Ferenc Rozsa Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Budapest, Hungary Time: 1998-11-23 09:11:04 Comments: Hi, please go to these addresses, if you are interested and want to know more details about group UNKLE: http://www.unkle.com and http://www.mowax.com Regards, Ferenc |
| Name: Richard Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Oxford, England Time: 1998-11-21 12:41:52 Comments: I would like a copy of the Talk Talk live video which was only released in Italy. Can anyone help? my copy (recorded from TV years ago) is worn out. Email me please |
| Name: Chris
Lancaster Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, UK Time: 1998-11-20 23:53:59 Comments: Very interesting to hear the original version of Talk Talk; certainly very very punky, in keeping with the year it was recorded. Given how much the song changed before the single version you have to think that Mark's brother (co-writer of the song, and member of Eddie and the Hotrods, I believe) must have had a big influence on the sound. Also, re: the forthcoming live album, there are already bootlegs around which contain live versions of songs like Such A Shame which aren't on the Kiss the Stone CD; I've had a tape of the 1987 Birmingham Odeon concert which contains this track for about seven years! |
| Name: Christine
Card Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Highlands,NJ Time: 1998-11-20 13:37:21 Comments: I have been trying for a very long time to find the lyrics to "It's My Life". Thanks for everything!!! Sincerely, Christine Card |
| Name: jörg
schumann Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: binningen, switzerland Time: 1998-11-20 00:02:20 Comments: after spocks beard and IQ , talk talk is my favourite band and this for about 15 years. After 1991 I thought, that the band doesn`t exist anymore and I couldn`t find anything new from hollis & co. I was surprised and glad to find out in january, that this not the case. I hope that this was not the last record of Marc hollis. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-11-19 09:41:05 Comments: The recording details by Phill Brown are one of the most interesting thing I read about Talk Talk since this site is opened. But (yes there is a but) the Talk Talk secret is unveiled a little bit more, and I must admit I'm afraid of that. Although I always wanted to know how they could build this incredible sound throughout SOE, LS and MH, there's a part deep inside me that wants Talk Talk to remain mysterious. The fact we don't know much about them, about their way of recording, about the meaning of the lyrics, etc... is what's so attractive about this group of musicians (to me). I think the mystery is an important part in Talk Talk's evolution. |
| Name: jurgen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: melbourne, oz Time: 1998-11-18 02:11:45 Comments: hi, a rather naive wish, i know. looking for any rare, live material from Mark; don't really know t-t, but hollis cd is great. mail me, for a chat... |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-11-17 18:23:08 Comments: Re: David. You can find at least some of tablatures you seek here: http://www.psiron.demon.co.uk/Talk_Talk.htm - Re: Dagfinn. To correct a little mistake: EMI has nothing to do with the forthcoming 'Hammersmith' release. |
| Name: dagfinn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Norway Time: 1998-11-17 16:26:36 Comments: Hello, everyone! I been away for a while, but itīs great to be here! Always a fab site, Henrik, and while it was slow earlier, itīs good to see all the postings, too. Nothing to say, really, exept that otīs big news with the live album. Letīs just hope the EMI-man tells the truth, and that itīs not the concert know from video, singles and boowlegs already. Iīm suspicious, though, with "Shame" beeing the only new track. Well, any news of Talk Talk is alkost inevitably great, great news. Another thing. Henrik, I noticed you used the word "moving" about a song. Have you ever wondered upon how all music moves in time, starts, shifts and ends, and how the music of TT/MH challenges the common listenerīs experience of these things? Thoughts anyone? Goodbye, and it was nice to talk to you |
| Name: David Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Scotland Time: 1998-11-17 14:29:24 Comments: Hi all again, i asked recently if anyone had the guitar tablature for the Colour of Spring album, i'm still looking for it, hoping that someone new to the site can help me out. Tkae care all, as always visiting this site is an uplifting experience, keep up the good work Henrik |
| Name: Jonas Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-11-17 11:10:30 Comments: This page just gets better and better. And there's more and more fans coming in. It's just so great! |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-11-17 08:56:03 Comments: Excellent Phill Brown interview !! Nice one Henrik ! The best just keeps getting better... Interesting to see the working titles for the tracks on SoE. Thanks also to Phill for restoring some of our faith in the Talk Talk gang ! |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-11-16 19:08:46 Comments: 200 messages !! And still going strong. Sorry, I haven't got anything interesting to say, I just wanted to get message 200 :) Bye ! |
| Name: Cally Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Suffolk Time: 1998-11-14 12:39:19 Comments: Hello Lee, are you readiong this? More power to Yourang. |
| Name: Matthew
Gerbel Website: Novasoul Design Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Encino, California USA Time: 1998-11-13 19:21:15 Comments: This site just goes to show what is definitely good about the net. Anyway... Has anyone out there heard any of the tracks from the bootleg live cd 'Talking Colours'? If so, does the quality compare at all to the live tracks on several cd singles? I already have 4 of the tracks from the official yet, not released live cd. The bootleg would definitely add more... if it's worth it. Thanx! |
| Name: PORCARIA Website: no tengo e-mails Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Brazil, pero no hablo Espaņol! Time: 1998-11-13 04:22:08 Comments: Existe algum fã do Talk Talk aqui no BRasil? Nunca encontrei ninguém que gostasse tanto da banda quanto eu. Se existir algum deixe mensagem pra PORCARIA pela dalnet. |
| Name: Julian
Gilbert Website: Referred by: InfoSeek From: Hertfordshire, UK Time: 1998-11-12 01:58:09 Comments: Can anyone tell me what Talk Talk are currently up to. What have the band produced sinceLaughing Stock (one of my favourite albums)? Is any of it up there with the quality of Spirit of Eden or LS? Can I see any of the band members liv when I head back to the Uk from Australia next year? |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-11-06 10:02:22 Comments: Well he certainly got everyone talking did'nt he. |
| Name: Chris
Lancaster Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-11-05 22:11:05 Comments: re: interview; well what did everyone expect from a man who even at the height of his productivity gave us one album every two years? maybe if he was asked one question every two years rather than twenty in one questionairre he might be more verbose :-) |
| Name: Kett Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: California Time: 1998-11-05 20:16:52 Comments: Did anyone really expect any astonishing new insights from Mark regarding his music? I'm surprised he bothered to answer at all, though he probably shouldn't have since all it does is reinforce his reputation as a "difficult" artist. As much as I love the music, I'm rapidly losing respect for the man. I've always held EMI mostly to blame for the problems that occurred after SOE, but perhaps I should be more charitable towards them -- he really must have been a huge pain in the ass to work with! Mark's desire to obtain 100% control over his artistic output is admirable, but his dismissal of the fan base which supports that output is undignified. |
| Name: Kevin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Texas Time: 1998-11-05 03:15:34 Comments: RE:Robin--Agreed. Actually I thought some of his answers were quite funny. Particularly the question mark after his thoughts on the bible. In his interviews he actually seems long-winded at times. I wonder if he just felt that to adequately answer the questions would require pages and pages of writing, if even they were answerable at all. Additionally, I wonder if he understands what this site is all about. Maybe he's unaware. Or maybe his dog chewed up his original answers and he didn't want to rewrite them. :-) |
| Name: Ken Peel Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bristol, UK Time: 1998-11-04 17:59:59 Comments: Does anyone know what Tim Friese-Greene is up to these days? Is he still producing? Does anyone one who for or how to contact him? |
| Name: Jonas Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-11-04 13:47:38 Comments: Re: The MH interview. When you see the other interviews with MH this year by professional interviewers, Mark answeres politly, opposite this one with questions by fans, where he is (forgive me for saying) rude. So why is he rude about this one when he is polite about the other interviews. I am too very dissapointed about regarding his answers. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-11-04 11:46:20 Comments: re: The world's shortest interview. Maybe I will be soundly pilloried for this, but I think it's worth putting Hollis's point of view across. He's always been tacit, even as mainstream artist in the 80's. I find it quite endearing myself! Just because the questions were put by fans is not a reason to expect him to answer any differently from any other interview. Remember, Hollis was utterly fed up with the music business 10 years ago. I just get the impression that since then, he wants to be left to making music instead of talking about it all the time. I wouldn't take it personally! |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: East Sussex England Time: 1998-11-04 08:53:01 Comments: The response to the MH interview is very intersting, unlike the interview itself. A similar thing happened on the official Queen website. John Deacon (The Bass player, for those who don't know) answered very many more questions with the same lack of courtesy, just Yes and No. It is 'such a shame' that these people dont take more interest in their fan base, however small. Given the poor sales of the MH solo album, however brilliant we may think it is, one would expect him to show some gratitude to those who have not consigned him and his music to the land of forgotten has-beens like the rest of the music buying public has done. Sorry to be rude about our favourite son, but sometimes things have to be said. |
| Name: Stefan
Weber Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-11-03 22:04:06 Comments: All Mr. Holis seems to be saying in the interview is: please never ever again bother me with a single question! I suggest we listen to the music (and discuss it) and forget the man. I am sure one can appreciate the music and not be a "fan" of the person at the same time. |
| Name: Benjamin
Sürig Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Germany Time: 1998-11-03 14:46:56 Comments: Good news for all of you looking for a live video. I think I will get two different videos very soon. Well, then I should be able to make copies myself. I will post another message here when I've checked our two video recorders. :) |
| Name: Neil Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Cardiff Time: 1998-11-03 10:20:32 Comments: I was so disappointed with Marks' answers to questions that were obviously put from people who have admired Talk Talk and Mark Hollis for many years. I feel perhaps it would have been better not to agree to answer them at all than to give such short, one word answers. I'd like to think that it's not a case of Mark 'not caring' but perhaps he underestimates how much we do. |
| Name: simon
kennedy Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Newbury,UK Time: 1998-11-02 21:32:53 Comments: Just read the 'Interview', hhmmmm...interesting. Maybe he was busy or something. Some of the questions, which are all very relevant, are unanswered, maybe Mr Hollis has a short attention span. Still, I think we're lucky to get an answer at all I suppose. Give it a few months and perhaps we can try again? |
| Name: Steve Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: USA Time: 1998-11-02 17:16:36 Comments: My take on this new Within Withuot/Fan interview ("World's Shortest Interview") with Mark Hollis is that Mark really doesn't care about nor, is he bothered answering questions from his fans. No matter how valid or intelligent the questions are. How much effort did he put into answering the questions that he did bother to answer ? Answer: as little as possible, to get it over with. If this message sounds negative; it is. Simply put, Mark Hollis should be pleased & grateful that the fans he does have, do seem to "care" and are "interested" in his music. Maybe, Mark was having a bad day and/or is going thru some difficult personal problems when, he answered these questions ? I don't know but, it certainly doesn't leave a good impression to a new fan like myself. |
| Name: David Website: Ordinary Psycho Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-11-02 12:32:15 Comments: I have read the interview with Mark Hollis, and I can't help thinking that if he is ( as he clearly states ) aware that Talk Talk still have a fanbase, and the hardest core of that likely to tune into this website from time to time, why he shouldn't have made more of the oppotunity to expand a little on some of his answers at least. The questions were pretty good on the whole. I can understand being a evasive to the popular music press but this...come on! Perhaps he doesn't care enough about fans of his music. Still, I suspect this was a tricky interview to get so congratulations anyhow. OP. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-10-29 13:04:49 Comments: The last chatroom was pretty quiet when I was there....I don't think it got much busier than 5 or 6 people. A few connection problems, I think... As for the 3 CD singles, I don't think they're very easy to find. It took me months and months to find the 'New Grass / Stump' CD. It was worth it though. I would try a lot of the UK-based mail order companies. Esprit are usually pretty good. You could also try Vinyl Tap in Leeds, England (www.vinyltap.co.uk) Good luck ! |
| Name: simon Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: newbury, uk Time: 1998-10-25 19:07:28 Comments: What was the last chatroom like? Did I miss much? (should have been there really I know!). Briefly heard the UNKLE album the other day.....not bad, lots of samples/break beats etc.. |
| Name: Michael
Davie Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Mars Hill, North Carolina USA Time: 1998-10-25 18:37:37 Comments: This might get asked alot, but I haven't heard yet, so... I really want to get a copy of the 3 picture cd singles, or specifically, the b- sides. I got Asides Besides just for John Cope, but I have no idea on how to get a copy of the other. I really want to hear everything, you know? I would appreciate any help. I hope this is the appropriate place to ask, if not, so sorry. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris, France Time: 1998-10-20 09:05:25 Comments: Dave, I think it's going to be very, very difficult to know more about the machines they used to record SOE and LS. Mark Hollis is not too specific about this, he says that it's not relevant. But he surely wants to keep his secret... |
| Name: charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-10-19 11:49:48 Comments: Hey Pocaria you also forgot Simon Brenner! |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-10-18 20:45:42 Comments: Did anyone else have problems using the chatroom ? I kept losing my connection - and it was my first time too ! Danne and Kett - drop me a line some time! Sorry I couldn't chat any more. Maybe we'll have a busier gathering next time !... |
| Name: Dave Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: PA, USA Time: 1998-10-18 16:14:05 Comments: Is there a source for the more technical information on the TT recordings (especially on EDEN and LAUGHING STOCK) . I've read the one article on this website but would like to know more. Things such as what mics, preamps, compressors etc. were used would be of great interest to me. Anyone have that kind of info? Thanks |
| Name: Alberto Stanzani Website: none Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Italy Time: 1998-10-17 18:22:03 Comments: There is another band that sounds subliminal as Talk Talk: LABRADFORD. Read on them at the page: http://trout.sputcorp.com/reviews/labradford.htm I've heard the records and see them live here in Italy. Amazing, slow, introspective band... Read these good reviews on Talk Talk at this site: http://trout.sputcorp.com/reviews/talk_talk.htm Other bands I found quite original are the japanese Ghost, a sort of Incredible String Band with a Sylvian meditative feel... ***Light and dreams, Alberto ******* |
| Name: Topher
Mathieu Website: A Paranoid Schizophrenic :-) Referred by: Other search engine From: France Time: 1998-10-17 13:11:41 Comments: This is a wonderful, clear, fast and complete site. Congratulations ! :-) Unfortunately, I didn't find any chord or tab interpretations Can anybody please e-mail me personnally if they have any tips regarding that ? Thank you very much and keep it up ! :-) Topher. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-10-16 09:05:05 Comments: Re: Benjamin. - You can find details about the live video in the new and improved Discographies section. :-) |
| Name: Benjamin
Sürig Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Germany Time: 1998-10-15 11:49:50 Comments: Could someone tell me which songs Talk Talk perform on the live videos? The live CDs might not include all songs. / Is there anybody who trusts me and sends me his live video tape? I would make copies and then send it back. (Believe me! :) |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: East Sussex UK Time: 1998-10-14 21:03:07 Comments: For anyone interested there is a selection of james Marsh's work at WWW.ARTBANK.LTD.UK/MARSH. Along with the following quote: For James the concept is an integeral part of the illustration, therefore he produces better work when he has more creative input. Images vary depending on the subject matter allowing him to be rather chameleon(apt!????) like as an illustrator, which suits his design background. His favoured medium is acrylic on canvas. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-10-14 09:51:57 Comments: Re: Pocaria. You forgot Tim. Don't forget Tim! |
| Name: emmett Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: San Diego, California, USA Time: 1998-10-13 20:26:45 Comments: RE: MIKE no, actually none of the earlier slowdive stuff (2 lp's and a ton of ep's) are anything like pygmalion. their earlier music is much more guitar orientated, with tons (I mean tons) of effects. slowdive broke up shortly after the release of pygmalion, so this is the only album that has any traceable influences by TT & MH. |
| Name: dave
marsden Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: toronto, canada Time: 1998-10-13 19:54:33 Comments: Hey, Scott! (and anyone else looking for James Marsh artwork)...His stuff is hard to find in public forums....I've seen much of his stuff through Artist's Reps (for Advertising projects), but there are two books of illustration published by James... Bizarre Birds and Beasts....and one other on short verses that I haven't got the title of YET...You'll probably have to special-order Birds and Beasts...the code is ISBN 0-8037-1046-1 ...and it's beautiful! I'll get that other title soon...You might also be able to look up an old COMMUNICATION ARTS archive that did a profile on him years about 4 ago. More as i have it. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: East Sussex UK Time: 1998-10-13 17:57:53 Comments: Following earlier reccomendations, I think every TT / MH fan should get ther hands on SLOWDIVE'S PYGMALION. I would like to know if MH has heard it. The percussion has a very Talk Talk/Eden/Laughing Stock feel to it and I am sure it must have been influenced by those albums. Does anyone know of their other material and if its in the same vein?. BUY IT NOW!!!!!!!!. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-10-12 15:05:35 Comments: Hey ! That guy's right ! I was wondering who that Mark Hollis was. ...That explains why we keep talking about them ! Jeez...I feel so stupid... |
| Name: PORCARIA Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: Brasil Time: 1998-10-12 09:35:11 Comments: Mark Hollis + Paul Webb + Lee Harris = Talk Talk. |
| Name: scott Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: usa oregon Time: 1998-10-09 22:15:56 Comments: does anyone know where i can find more of james marsh's incredible artwork? this guy is a genious. secondly, does anyone know if hollis will ever make it to the u.s. ??? |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-10-09 14:51:53 Comments: I have 4 copies of Natural History for anyone who would like to send me a polite E-Mail. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-10-09 08:43:06 Comments: What is it that you don't like about Heligoland ? I think the first and last tracks are brilliant, and the EP overall is brilliant. Across the 4 tracks, it's extremely varied, with an excellent raw sound. Try giving it an 11th spin ! |
| Name: Stuart Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-10-09 01:30:23 Comments: Just listened to Heligoland for about the 10th time. Why do I do this? It was absolutely dire. Ignore buying this at all costs. I'm surprised they pressed 2000 in all! Sorry to be so negative but Nonononononono!!!! |
| Name: Erik Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Dublin Time: 1998-10-07 14:45:16 Comments: David Sylvian is another artist who 'steals' song titles from his previous work. Particularly during his time as front man for Japan. I assume this technique is the artist attempting to create a sense of continuity in their work. On the subject of the Talk Talk video. Have you tried video rental libraries. It's illegal I know, but sometimes they stock sell-thru titles. I know of two near me that have the Natural History video. Otherwise your best shot is car boot sales as I haven't seen it on the shelves for sale for a number of years. On the subject of videos, has anyone noticed the slightly different fade out on Lifes what you make it ?. The drums and piano seem to stop and the keyboards continue on. I think this may have been mentioned before, any explanations though ?. Also, in the 80's, when bands appeared on Top of the Pops they would often mime to altered versions of their songs (I think there were legal reasons behind it or something). I have a TOTP from 1982 with Echo & the Bunnymen doing a very different version of 'Back of Love' (not live), I was just wondering if Talk Talk did the same. |
| Name: Crawford Website: Rothko Information Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: nonsense is better than no sense at-all Time: 1998-10-07 11:02:49 Comments: Does anyone know why there's so little bootleg material available on TT, most bands have much more available, even bands that lasted only a couple of years (for example, Joy Division) have tons of stuff. Unless I'm very much mistaken there only seems to be a handful of live tapes and nothing else, could it be that TT fans aren't that obsessive? surely not?. P.S. I spotted the AVI c.d. at HMV on Oxford Street yesterday for about Ģ16, someones theres been doin' their homework. c. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-10-07 08:46:57 Comments: James, If you look back through the old messages, you'll see that we had a bit of an obsession with song titles a few weeks ago ! Other ones mentioned were "I Believe In You" / "I Don't Believe In You" , and "The Colour Of Spring" and erm... "The Colour Of Spring" Which were perhaps slightly less witty than the others :) Mark often seems to do this for song titles, probably because he'd prefer not to name them, but he has to. There are a few tributes to other bands / musicians in a lot of the titles, too. |
| Name: James Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-10-06 20:04:17 Comments: I've been curious about some of the titles on "Laughing Stock", it's been mentioned before that 'Myrrhman' can be read as a pun of the earlier 'Mirror Man', but it struck me that 'Runeii' might be a similar pun on 'Rene'....(although the title has also been broken down to "Rune 'two'" in some articles)....is this news to anyone? -j |
| Name: Qewe Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Scotland Time: 1998-10-05 14:47:50 Comments: Yeah how in the world can you get Naturel History on video? I've been searching for years. And what is that trumpet solo in "Happiness Is Easy" there is no trumpet credited. |
| Name: Tony
Bernauer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sydney. Australia Time: 1998-10-04 06:34:21 Comments: Hi Folks, I wonder if anyone has got any suggestions on where I could possibly get a copy of Talk Talk's Music Video's? Despite having a fairly complete collection of their music, I have nothing on video. (and more to the point have only ever seen 1 video of them ). By the time I realised that History Revisited was also on video it had been deleted from the catalogue here. I know that this is a big ask but I thought someone might know of somewhere in the world that still stocks this (or any other Talk Talk material). Thanks, Tony |
| Name: Alberto Stanzani Website: Lost Cities Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Italy Time: 1998-10-04 02:33:11 Comments: What a big thing will be to read something about the James Marsh sleeves. I've found in Internet a pair of sites, but are involved with art galleries or that sort of things. It will be interesting also to interview Marsh and to know what he thinks about the TT records!! *****Trees with shells to all... Alberto |
| Name: Jonas Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-10-02 12:56:43 Comments: Hm Pink Floyds "Great Gig In the Sky" sounds similar to "Wealth" that thought have never stroke me before, though they're great songs. And they're songs lead organ/keyboard songs, I think you're right about it robin. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-10-02 12:05:02 Comments: Speaking of soundalikes, I always hear the main refrain from Pink Floyd's 'Great Gig In The Sky' during the verse sections of 'Wealth'. Hollis appears to mumble "I feel like I'm in Pink Floyd" on the 'alternative' video take for Dum Dum Girl, so it seems that Hollis and co. were quite partial to musical jests as well as lyrical ones....... |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-10-01 15:15:04 Comments: Re: GP and David M. --- GP, Though I'd never use the word entertaining to describe a TT/MH album there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Spirit Of Eden, Laughing Stock and Mark Hollis are the most important albums. They are equally unique and wonderful. For a newcomer I'd suggest to start with The Colour Of Spring (also a fantastic album) and then purchase the albums in chronological order. Regarding your last point I'll quote Mark Hollis him self: "At the end of the day the record is what I have to say. If you understand it, you do, if you don't, nothing I say will make you understand it. The only thing I can do by talking about it is detract from it. I can't add anything. Can I go home now, then...?" DM, You're quite right. I noticed the same the same thing and made a similar mistake once. |
| Name: GP Website: Referred by: Word of Mouth From: Liverpool Time: 1998-09-30 12:45:55 Comments: What is generally regarded as Mark's most interesting and entertaining piece of work. Also, why does he shy away from any kind of interest in his work, media or otherwise. Maybe you could answer that one Paul. GP |
| Name: D. Malerba Website: teh swells Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Austin, Texas Time: 1998-09-28 15:45:25 Comments: Benjamin, all those songs are incredible. There is nothing like the feeling you get when "Time It's Time" turns into that whistling theme at the end... A long time ago, one night in a bar, a tune broke through the loud roar of talking. It took me a while to make it out but I was very familiar with it. Having had a bit too much, I turned to my wife and said: "wow, they're playing Talk Talk's The Rainbow". She gave me a strange look, listend closer and asked me to give her the keys and told me it was VU's "Heroin" and that I'd had enough. Although she was right, I had had enough, if you can set up in a room with your home stereo and a boom-box, forward "The Rainbow", off Spirit of Eden, to 9:08 in the song, then simultaneously cue up and start The Velvet Underground's track "Heroin". |
| Name: Benjamin
Sürig Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Germany Time: 1998-09-28 14:32:33 Comments: I would like to talk to people who especially like "Dum Dum Girl", "Runeii", "Time It's Time" and "Life's What You Make It". When I recently left a message here nobody answered. :( b.suerig@dud-online.de |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-09-27 18:11:09 Comments: 10 days since a message, what are you all doing ???????? |
| Name: Jonas
Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-09-17 12:50:50 Comments: Thanks for your reply Paul. I was dissapointed when I first bought the album. But after 4 or 5 listenings I am now very happy about it, because it is infact a good album. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-09-17 08:34:23 Comments: For a while now, I'm desperatly looking for Laughing Stock in the vinyl format, you know the big black record with scratches and hiss ! So if anyone knows where it can be found or if anyone owns it, I'm waiting for a sign, I'm waiting for an offer, I'll stay hung to my computer till I get an answer ! but please tell me you have it and you want to sell it ! champart@hol.fr |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-09-16 22:09:27 Comments: Jonas - don't be too disappointed about UNKLE. Mark Hollis definitely plays on the album - he plays piano on 'Chaos', and some string parts in other songs. He was involved in composing 'Chaos' with Atlantique Khan, but his name was removed from the credits by own choice, as he didn't like the final mix. But I promise you that Mark is definitely on the album ! |
| Name: Jonas
Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-09-15 10:53:19 Comments: Just to tell that I bought UNKLE yesterday, and I didn't find Hollis credited neither for performing or writing, a bit dissapointing, because the only reason I purcased it in the first place, was that I Hollis performed on it. |
| Name: Jon Lewis Website: Referred by: Other search engine From: Gainesville FL, US Time: 1998-09-15 03:55:55 Comments: I'm with with you on Scott Walker's tilt Graham. It and Laughingstock have affected me more than any other albums. Mmmr-- add on Debussy's Preludes performed by Gieseking. In any case, they changed my way of thinking not just about music, but about all arts and maybe even about life. I was already a Scott Walker freak when "tilt" came out... my other favorites are Scott 3, Climate Of Hunter and the first1/2 of niteflights. It seems the MH album is moving some copies-- let's hope that tilt has done the same so we can look forward to new works from two of the only "rock" voices worth attending to... |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-09-14 21:01:08 Comments: david. Hey, dont worry, at least you care, I didnt mean to sound flipant when refering to your profoundity........keep going. |
| Name: David Website: the swells Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Austin Time: 1998-09-14 16:25:17 Comments: Please excuse my Friday, "stoned and babbling", thoughts. I agree, they lay somewhere between processed cheese food and frozen french fries. It all referred to the album covers and not the music, which obviously I failed miserably at creatively expressing. Again, sorry. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-09-13 21:22:35 Comments: I have been away for two weeks and have missed all the comments. I made Mini Discs of all the TT an MH albums and sat at Cap Lardier On the French South Coast listening to the MH solo album, with hot sunshine & waves crashing etc. etc. and I was in heaven, now back to reality and grey old UK. I also re discovered the early TT albums which was cool. I know this is not as profound as the Malerba stuff, but who cares eh?, this is about the love of TT music. and I do. |
| Name: Chris
Lancaster Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-09-13 18:54:26 Comments: I've got a really old bootleg tape of the 1986 concert at Hammersmith Odeon. It's different in two regards to the Living Colours CD - firstly there are more tracks (!!) and secondly there's an intro which was played over the PA before they start playing Talk Talk. It's been bugging me for ten years now as to what this intro is; it's very hard to describe, but it's about 90 seconds long and is a female voice singing what sounds like a Gaelic chant. I know it's a longshot, but does anyone have any idea what it might be? |
| Name: David Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Scotland Time: 1998-09-11 22:05:55 Comments: Does anyone out there have the guitar tablature for the Colour Of Spring album, would be much appreciated thanks, great site by the way |
| Name: Graham
Sutton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-09-11 17:55:56 Comments: Another pun for you! "Caroline, no" -Pet Sounds, Beach Boys. Please,please, my sides are splitting. By the way, has anyone else got any bad poetry for mass consumption?? I just dunno where Dave's coming from at all!! (N.B: I now have email). ;-) |
| Name: Paul McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-09-11 16:57:15 Comments: Quick message for Graeme Sutton - drop me an email any time if you want to discuss Mr Walker at length ! I'd hate to get up everyone's noses by straying too far from the main topic :) Sorry if this is boring, but I wasn't even going to try to top the last message ! |
| Name: David Malerba Website: Referred by: Word of Mouth From: Time: 1998-09-09 22:51:48 Comments: Here is something I wrote while immersed in "Laughing Stock" one day. Chapter 1) "The Colour of Spring" On a flat surface the moths of the world land and attempt to adapt to their counter parts: tigers, rabbits, fish, racoons, hearts, music and even jewels. All rich in the colors of spring and born on April 5th. Chapter 2) "Spirit of Eden" All the fruits of all the Gods hang in a single tree that grew from a plane elevated from a sea of tranquility and calm, while the sky hangs blue skyed and clear in the distance much like Eden itself. The start of something new and plentiful by nature, an inheritance of wealth enough for any desire, so we think. Chapter 3) "Laughing Stock" The very same tree, only now more mature, stands stripped of all its fruit, while we also see, possibly due to its own insatiable appetite, that the tree has depleated its vast resource of needed nurishment. Consequently, still remaining, are all the perpetrators of the crime, whom like leaves, cling to her frame in the shape of the their continents, all very colorful and very proud but also very cumbersome for one tree to bare. A different haze of sky now frames the tree while one soloist in flight, yet to claim it's branch, circles her. Unfortunately she is most likely the dove of peace herself who has yet to take permanent residence. David Malerba |
| Name: Jonas
Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-09-09 13:26:48 Comments: Re: Heligoland. When I first put on the Heligoland ep, I was really surprised, if you compare it with Hollis' solo album, Heligoland is very noisy. But after some listenings it was great, and it's getting better still. Seems like Friese-Greene has decided to move on musiccally, and give himself some new challenge. "Blued" is my favourite track. "The kiss-off" sounds like something you might see on mtv. Well I think the ep is great, and I can't wait to hear his follow up. |
| Name: Graham Sutton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London, England Time: 1998-09-09 13:25:56 Comments: Re:"Tilt". Hmmmmm, I don't know if "enjoy" is quite the word for it. It ain't just entertainment. When I first heard it, it literally turned my world upside down and sent a lot of things out of control. In hindsight there are moments of genius throughout it, and also moments of total garbage. But even then I'm not sure I agree with what I'm typing. Certainly I've never heard a record that has shocked me as much before or since (with the exception of "Spirit", I was 16 when I first heard it). I guess maybe one of yr problems is the way the great man's voice has changed. Yes, it is quite theatrical (almost camp?). Yes, it may be a "little" OTT; BUT, the opening 2 tracks, "Tilt" itself, "Swan", the last track I feel are genuinely harrowing and moving. So much violence there!! The production is a little too slick/rock in places, but at other times (esp. strings on Patriot & opening track) quite superb, and pretty innovative for someone old enough to be my dad. I guess the acid test is what you are left with after it has finished, and I've got to say that "Tilt" haunted me for weeks. "Scott3", "Scott4" & "Tilt" are 3 of my all time faves...(along with many others). Any other Walkerheads out there??? Ciao! ;-) |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-09-09 08:57:46 Comments: Re: Heligoland. It's difficult to compare any of the four tracks to anything by Talk Talk - the overall sound is quite raw, and the vocals are fuzzy at times - quite a rough sound, but this is deliberate. I like the EP a lot - all of the tracks are very different. Tim also plays a lot of different instruments on the EP, which varies the sound of each track. If there are still copies available, I would buy it quickly ! One other point - does anyone have any views on Scott Walker's 'Tilt' ? I bought it a few weeks ago, and I'm still finding it hard to enjoy it.... |
| Name: dagfinn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: norwegen Time: 1998-09-08 17:36:13 Comments: How does the Heligoland EP sound? Any resemblance to TT? Should I start searching for it? Is it good? |
| Name: Jonas
Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-09-08 13:26:23 Comments: I have just received the Heligoland ep thanks to all who have mailed me. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: uk Time: 1998-09-08 11:39:22 Comments: re: Charles. I could be wrong, but 'Songs Of The Siren' rings a bell in my mind as a Tim Buckley tribute album featuring various artists. It may have been released in the last 2 years or so as far as I can remember. Can anyone else verify this? |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: u.k. Time: 1998-09-06 12:11:58 Comments: more UNKLE. This month's 'Future Music' carries an interview with James Lavelle and DJ Shadow. Hollis is only mentioned briefly but most significantly, they say he performs piano and string parts on the finished album. He is one of only two instrumentalists on the record, the other being Metallica's Jason Newstead.... So who's telling the truth?! |
| Name: Bradley F.
Cain Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Manhattan Beach, CA, U.S.A. Time: 1998-09-05 09:45:37 Comments: Attention DAGFINN: hey -- my name is Bradley -- I've seen you posting lately and I noticed you said you were looking for the Hammerstein Odeon concert ('Talking Colours') but I found no e-mail listed for you. I have the original 'Talking Colours' CD and my own remastered version that I willfully trade -- a few others on the list have my version. Since you live in Norway, I have a special request: I've been looking for Savoy's "Lackluster Me" for a long, LONG time in the US to no avail. Please let me know if we can arrange a trade. You will be very happy with the cleaned up live Talk Talk CD now that the clicks, pops and much of the hiss is gone and it has been re-EQd (and you don't have to buy it from a bootleg company). Please e-mail me when you see this! Thank You, Bradley F. Cain bfcain@ix.netcom.com |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-09-01 16:51:39 Comments: Can anyone recommend somewhere to track down anything by Morton Feldman ? I'm keen to hear some of his music, but I'm having difficulty in tracking it down... |
| Name: Chris Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle UK Time: 1998-08-28 23:16:57 Comments: This week's NME has a three page feature on the UNKLE album, together with interviews with some of the collaborators on the project. Unfortunately, Mark isn't interviewed, but the following is part of the article which refers to the song on which Mark contributed, 'Chaos'; French chanteuse Atlantique Khanh had a .... unique problem, since English was not her first language, so she had to learn to write a song in it over a period of two years. Then, once the song was finished, original collaborator Mark Hollis decided he didn't like his part and wanted his name taken off the credits.... .....he subsequently decided to like it after all, and wanted his name put back on. Then he changed his mind again and decided he didn't want the song on the record at all. A by now hair-tearing (James) Lavelle eventually persuaded him to let them record the track without his contribution. And I thought I was indecisive... for the record, the album is fantastic, and well worth the money, with much of the album having a trip-hop flavour which I think most TT fans will like. |
| Name: Molly Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-08-27 19:42:07 Comments: Now, I'm interested in finding any posters or photos of Talk Talk, Mark Hollis and O'Rang. I'm really interested in any with Paul Webb. He's my favorite member of the group. Thanks. |
| Name: Kevin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-26 21:26:07 Comments: RE:Molly--Mark Hollis' album is still available at both cdnow.com and amazon.com. The latter has the better price. Incidently amazon.com also has AV1. |
| Name: Molly Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-08-26 17:02:20 Comments: Thanks for everything, but I hopefully found someone who has what I want. The thing is I live in the US, and it would be very expensive to send the video overseas. And the video isn't a PAL video. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-08-26 13:47:59 Comments: Does anyone know something about an album called Songs Of The Siren ? I checked some infos about Mark Hollis on the all music guide site (www.allmusic.com), and they mention a vocal performance by MH on an album entitled Songs Of The Siren. It's quite surprising because they don't even mention the MH album. I don't know if it's a mistake, but I need to feel reassured ! |
| Name: Molly Website: Molly's Pages Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY USA Time: 1998-08-25 17:56:45 Comments: I was just wondering the same thing about Paul and Lee. Paul Webb was my favorite member of Talk Talk. I had a HUGE crush on him. I would love to see what he looks like now. I just got back from visiting family in Boston, MA, and I went to a record store there, and I looked for both mark Hollis' album and O'Rang's albums, but I couldn't find a thing. I know Mark's album isn't out in the US, but this record store sold imports. I was wondering if any of O'Rang's albums are out in the US. If anybody out there would like to copy the Mark Hollis album for me I will be so happy. I'll trade some of my CDs and cassettes for it. Or if anybody wants to trade for my Talk Talk video 45 that would be great. Let me know by e-mail. |
| Name: Paul McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-08-25 13:02:01 Comments: Has anybody else bought UNKLE's album yet ? It's good to hear the New Grass drum part used in Thom Yorke's track, and I'm certain that Mark Hollis makes an appearance on 'Chaos'. The piano that drifts in occasionally sounds similar to the AV1 track...and Mark gets mentioned in the credits along with Talk Talk. One other thing...does anyone know if Lee and Paul are still working together, and if any new work is due for release ?? |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-24 15:45:25 Comments: Here's another reference, Graham. "Laughing Stock" is the name of an old Love b-side. |
| Name: Graham Sutton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-24 14:16:31 Comments: Just a quickie.... why can't someone do a similar site for Scott Walker?? Am I the only person totally in awe?? If you've never heard the great man check out "Scott 4" and then get your head around "Tilt"!!!! (Incidentally "Again..A Game..Again" is a line from the song "The World's Strongest Man" from Scott4.) Is this stating the obvious, but I hope you've noticed all the oblique title references? , e.g "Dum Dum Girl" (Iggy Pop), "Mirror Man" (Cpt.Beefheart), "I Believe In You" & "For What It's Worth" (Neil Young) "Ascension Day" (John Coltrane), any others?????? Also that "Colour Of Spring" outtake I'll be sending to the site ASAP. Tata. |
| Name: emmett Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: USA Time: 1998-08-23 15:46:18 Comments: RE: Dagfinn. well, since I also missed the bus on the poll, I'll give my favorite songs from each album: the partys over-the partys over, its my life-renee, colour of spring-april 5th, sprit of eden-desire, laughing stock-new grass. NOW you can all rest easy, because I'm sure you were just dying to know what my fav. songs were!! (kidding). Also, I still have an extra copy of the "new grass" cd if anyone needs it. |
| Name: mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-22 14:20:41 Comments: There's a new album of 80 remixes available called 'RELAX the ultimate 80's album'. It fetarures an 'Extended' version of Talk Talk. Does anyone know if this is an existing remix or one done specially for this album?. The rest of the album is a bit too dodgy to purchase on the strength that it 'might' be a new version!. |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Norway Time: 1998-08-22 09:45:50 Comments: Well, itīs been a while since the Talk Talk poll, and I didnīt even catch it, so here are my favourites from each album. It was too hard to pick one song from each. Partyīs over: Mirror man/Have you heard the news? (The latter is one of the best TalkTalk tracks ever) Itīs my Life: DumDumGirl/Renee Colour of spring: I donīt believe in you/Time itīs time Spirit of eden:Well, I agree with those who see side one as one track, so Iīm putting that in, and also Inheritance Laughing stock: Ascension day/After the flood Besides: Itīs getting late in the evening/John Cope My all-time favourite Talk Talk track: Side one of Spirit of Eden. At the time, my favourtie track on the Mark Hollis album are Inside looking out and A Life |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Time: 1998-08-21 17:04:44 Comments: Paul, The only Talk Talk Hollis contribution on the Unkle Album is the drumpart of New Grass sampled on Rabbit In Your Headlight sung by Thom Yorke. |
| Name: Paul McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-08-21 15:40:13 Comments: Does anyone know if Mark Hollis has contributed any vocals to the UNKLE album ? I've read about his piano contribution, but nothing else.... I've also heard about the New Grass sample that features, and I'm curious to find out of any other songs featuring Talk Talk samples ?.... The only other one I know of is "I Don't Believe In You" which is sampled on Mandalay's album. |
| Name: Jonas Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-08-21 14:35:02 Comments: OK I REALLY COULD USE USE SOME HELP HERE! IT'S ABOUT THE HELIGOLAND CD, I WANT TO ORDER IT BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT "INTERNATIONAL MONEY ORDER" IS, IF ANYONE COULD PLEASE WRITE IN THIS FORUM OR SEND ME AN E-MAIL, I ALSO HOPED THAT HENRIK OR ANY OTHER DANISH SPEAKING PERSON COULD TRANSLATE THE WORD FOR ME, THANKS - JONAS. BTW HENRIK I HAVE FOUND A DANISH ARTICLE OF TALK TALK & HOLLIS WHICH I COULD TRANSLATE TO ENGLISH IF YOU WANT ME TO. SORRY I MISSED THE GATHERING. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: East Sussex UK Time: 1998-08-15 21:29:41 Comments: Re: Crawford: Although its not in the same vein as TT, MH or Slowdives, I have just got hold of a new Marillion album called tales from the engine room , which has been remixed by 'the positive light'. It is a excellent album, and totally not 'Fish like' Marillion from way back. If I dare, you could relate the energy of some of the tracks to that of Colour of Spring, . I strongly reccomend the vocals of Steve Hogarth and any of his Marillion or Solo albums. |
| Name: Crawford Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-08-15 17:25:26 Comments: Dear Henrik, I'm really sorry to have missed the gathering again, hope it went well and I hope to catch the next one! Just as an idea, on the back of the recomendation of Slowdive's 'Pygmalion' album, it would be interesting to know if anyone else has any records that they would recommend, maybe a top three or something It would give a nice view of the guestbook tastes here at WW. best wishes! |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-14 22:18:08 Comments: RE. HENRIK. I am sorry to have missed your chatroom meeting, I hope you had a good reception,just how many people did visit that evening?, and I hope to meet you at some point in the future, keep up the good work. |
| Name: dagfinn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: norwegen Time: 1998-08-14 16:00:41 Comments: It sure does. Thank you. |
| Name: Molly Website: Molly's Pages Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-08-13 23:19:24 Comments: Here is what's on Talk Talk Video 45. Talk Talk It's My Life Such A Shame Dum Dum Girl It's like a regular 45, it only has a few songs. Not like Natural History. It's only 16 minutes long. I hope that satisfys your curiousity. |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Norwegen Time: 1998-08-13 12:06:44 Comments: Re:Molly. Now youīve got me curious. What is the Video 45? This is very interesting. Could you state the contents of that, please? |
| Name: Molly Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-08-12 21:43:03 Comments: Well, I have two Talk Talk videos. I have the Video 45, and I have Natural History. If anybody wants any copies of these videos let me know, and we can figure out something. On one of my audio tapes I have a song called, Pictures of Bernadette. I got it off of Rock Over London many years ago. It's a pretty good song. Was that a B-side to anything? |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Norway Time: 1998-08-12 14:06:03 Comments: Re:Benjamin, again.I agree. We should all help eachother out here. Iīm expecting my copy of the Natural History video in a few weeks, and Iīm also trying to get a copy of the 1986 concert from a norwegian TV station. If i succeed in this, and if the sound is good enough, Iīll gladly make copies. Donīt want to spend thousends on empty video cassettes, though, so weīll have to find some arrangement. More on this when the time comes. Greetings to you all, Dgf. PS.: My E-Meil adress is now listed, so feel free to mail me if you have any thoughts on THE MUSIC of MH and TT whatsoever. |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Norway Time: 1998-08-12 13:52:42 Comments: Re:Benjamin. If itīs the Natural History video youīre talking about you should try Akers Mic in norway. Iīm sure they have copies. Give it a day or two and Iīll try to fond their adress. Theyīre online, though, but I havenīt got the exact web-adress. However, it shouldnīt be too hard to find them through AltaVista or some other engine. Try searching "Akers Mic VHS Video" or something. Best of luck...Dagfinn |
| Name: Benjamin
Sürig Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Germany Time: 1998-08-12 13:35:05 Comments: -Well, there are so many fans who look for a Talk Talk live video/cd and the "Natural History" compilation - including myself. So I think anybody who knows where we could order any rare material or who can make copies of anything should tell us in the guestbook - and should NOT tell a single fan. -I'd like to talk to people who 1. think "Life's What You Make It" is the most important song and 2. always use headphones when listening to TT. Please email me. |
| Name: Catherine David Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.S.A. Time: 1998-08-12 06:14:20 Comments: Dagfinn, I have a version of "Life's What You Make It," performed by the Divine Comedy, which appeared on the UK compilation CD/magazine, _Volume Nine_, in 1994. It's not a bad cover at all; of course it doesn't compare to the original, but it's affectionately done. Neil Hannon is credited with vocals and acoustic guitar, Chris Worsey with cello, and Natalie Box with violin. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sunny East Sussex UK Time: 1998-08-11 22:45:21 Comments: Re Dagfinn, I like some of your comments about the progess of the early music into the later stuff, i.e 'Dum Dum' and 'Shame' and agree with you on the issue of ignoring the first two albums, but by pure coincidence, before even seeing your message, I got hold of a copy of Slow Dives Pygamllion and must say its jolly good...... Just for the record, and to sound like a true groupie (arrgh), Such a Shame always has been and always will be my No 1 TT track, for very many reasons, blah blah blah. |
| Name: Anthony
Swain Website: Referred by: InfoSeek From: UK Time: 1998-08-11 15:44:03 Comments: Re: TT Discography. For a complete TT discography of official UK releases, see the UK-based Record Collector magazine, December 1991 issue. Although the discography, supplied by EMI and including full track listings, catalogue numbers and release dates (as per RC standard), does bear *minor* inaccuracies, it is nonetheless as complete as any published. It is accompanied by James Neiss's excellent output-related biography of the band (found at this site), the full spread providing an excellent companion to, and in fact underscoring the 'Asides Besides' release. Note that although Brendan did an excellent job with his discography, particularly with respect to overseas releases, there were notable absentees. Details on how to obtain RC back-issues can be found in any recent copy of the magazine. For once, however, EMI--front cover aside--have produced a release worthy of both the band and its audience, 'Asides Besides' pretty much succeeding in rounding up the band's remaining output. Completists will be keen/disappointed to learn however that there are a number of omissions from the listing, including a 1977 recording of 'Talk Talk', the results of a 1982 BBC session (which surfaced as B-sides), the contents of the 'Its My Mix' mini-LP and additional (1986) limited edition mixes of LWYMI and LIAW, amongst others. A.S. |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Norway Time: 1998-08-11 11:18:36 Comments: OOps. Seems that I submitted my last message twice. A clumsy mistake, and I am sorry. Especially about the writing errors. I just want to disagree to some of the earlier messages, stating the the last three TT albums are by far the best. Well, my personal fav. is "Spirit", but last night I listened to "Itīs my life", and it had been a while since last time. I discovered that the "Red cord" (Norwegian metaphor for continuity) that goes from "Colour of spring" to "Laughing stock" is there all the way. Examples: On "Dum Dum Girl" and "Such a shame" you can sort of hear them moving on to "Colour of spring" and on "April 5th" and "Chameleon day" you can hear them moving on towards "Spirit of Eden". Likewise, there are songs which point backwards, like "Living in another world". Oh, what hte hell, I guess what Iīm trying to say is that I thinkall the TalkTalk albums are absolutely smashing, and I think itīs a shame if anyone denies themselves the full pleasure of listening to the two first albums. Theyīs really outstanding pop-albums with wonderful emotional lyrics and fantastic melodies. Talk Talk has hellped me out of more than one crisis n my life. This may seem melodramatic, nevertheless, itīs true. I owe so much to these guys and the wonderful music they are generous enough to share with us. A tip to those who prefer the reallly ambient parts on "Spirit" and "LS", check out Slowdives "Pygmalion".Ok., now Iīll shut up for a while. |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Norway Time: 1998-08-11 10:58:08 Comments: Yes, Emmet, I agree. The early CW stuff is great. In 92-94 I actually sought comfort in the "Ferment" album, as I thought Mr Hollis had retired from making music alltogether. I am perhaps beeing a bit blasfemic here, but I feel that some of TTīs spirit is on the album. The reason for this could be TF-Gīs influence as a producer and organ player, but Iīm quit e sure mr.Dickinson & co are aware of their inheritance from the great masters. Am I alone about this observation.I even think Rob Dickinsons voice is a bit similar to Hollisī. A curiosity: A few years ago, a friend of mine sent me a compilation casette with a lot of semi-unknown british indie-bands. Amongst these was an acoustic cover-version of "Lifeīs what you make it" Not that it was any good, Iīve never really loved the idea of anyone covering TT, they couldnīt possibly add or improve anything, but does anyone know who did this song? And does anyone know other cover-version. A dreadful Norwegian soul-popband once stole almost the whole of "Give it up" and released under their own name. The ingorant low-lifes! And, does anyone know what Simon Brenner has been up to since he left Talk Talk? |
| Name: emmett Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: San Diego, USA Time: 1998-08-11 00:30:36 Comments: RE: Dagfinn. yeah, but actually it was the 3rd Lush ep called "Sweetness and Light". Also check out some of the early Catherine Wheel stuff to hear some other really good stuff produced by Tim Friese-Green. The "Black Metallic" & "Balloon" singles and the "Ferment" lp are all really good. And if anyone has trouble getting the "Laughing Stock" box set, I have an extra copy (complete). I also have extra copies of the "New Grass" and "Ascension Day" cds from the box set if anyone needs them. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-10 10:43:47 Comments: Re: Dagfinn. Tim and Nick Cave collaborated on a song for the soundtrack of one of the Batman movies. I've never heard it though. Has anybody heard it? |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Norway Time: 1998-08-10 09:06:44 Comments: Hello again! About the Laughing stock 3cd Box set. I think this store still has copies, but Iīm not sure. Youīll just have to try. Anyway, itīs COMPACT-HUSET AS, Austmannavn.11 Box 1756, 5501 Haugesund, Norway. I donīt know whether they ship overseas either. The reference number for the box set is 68031 and itīs priced NOK 229,- which should be about 18 - 20 pounds (sterling). They also have Orangīs Herd of Instinct listed in their 1997 catalogue, with the reference number 77730. The best of luck to you all....And, by the way,does anyone know anything about the soundtrack for a film that Tim Friese-Greene and Nick Cave supposedly have recorded? And did you know that Tim Friese-Greene also produced the very first Lush EP? |
| Name: Molly Website: Molly's Pages Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-08-08 17:22:55 Comments: I didn't know there was alnerate version of the video of Talk Talk. I have two versions of Dum Dum Girl, but that's on the video collection, Natural History. So like the previous post I would like to get a copy of it if anybody has it. Also, does anybody know what Paul Webb (who's my fave member of Talk Talk) has been up to? Is he still doing O'Rang with Lee Harris, or does he have any solo projects in the works? Also, I've been looking around for any albums from O'Rang in America, but I haven't found any. Have they released anything in the US or has most of their material been released in Europe. I've listened to a sample of their stuff, and I like it. It's too bad if their stuff isn't outin America. Also, someone told me that Mark Hollis' album hasn't been released in the US. Talk to you soon. |
| Name: Scott Davies Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: USA Time: 1998-08-07 19:20:56 Comments: I have a favor to ask, to anyone kind enough to help me. This has been aggrivating me something awful. I am a bit of an 80's video collector and one of the top videos I've been searching for is the alternate video version of the song Talk Talk, the one that is NOT included on Natural history. I saw the video several times on MTV in 84, when It's My Life became big, and haven't seen it since. If anybody has this please sell me a copy, this is making me crazy!Thanks,Scott |
| Name: Ferenc Rozsa Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Budapest, Hungary Time: 1998-08-07 10:01:49 Comments: Hello. Does anybody know where the AV1 CD from Dave Allinson and Phill Brown. when I will search at Voicprint's home page on side of Resurgence label? I still don't find at http://www.voiceprint.co.uk . Thanks. Ferenc (E-mail: frozsa@hotmail.com). |
| Name: Dagfinn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Norway Time: 1998-08-04 10:55:34 Comments: Well, Iīll try again. If anyone has a copy of the Hammersmith Odeon concert Iīd be more than happy to read a message about it here. If itīs any help, a friend of mine has a lot of TT twelve and seven inches including some tracks that are not included on Asides Besides, and I would gladly copy these songs onto a casette in trade for the concert. I also know of a record mall here in Norway which still has the L.Stock 3CD box set in stock, and I will leave their adress here as soon as I confirm my order myself. And, another thing: Does anyone know of any recorrd store that still has the EMI 30th anniversary edition of Colour of Spring? I donīt think you can imaging how frustrating it is to live in Norway and search for rare material. And it last, itīs great to see that thereīs so many people out there who enjoy the works of TT and Mark Hollis as much as I do. I was not surprised though, here in Norway we are quite a little "cult" of dedicated fans which have grown over the years. Among all the people I have "served" Talk Talk to, only one single person has not become a fan. Goodbye, then. |
| Name: Dagfinn Utgård Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Norway Time: 1998-08-03 15:09:43 Comments: Hello. First:Thank you (Henrik) for this fantastic site on the best band ever to exist.Iīve been a deeply devoted talktalk-fan since 88-89, so itīs nice to see someone putting so much labour into satisfying us fans. to the point. Finally itīs here (and has been for a few months), I am of course referring to Asides Besides. I had begaan thinking it was only a rumour. The 7 inch version of "why is it so hard" was magnifique (and so was, of course, the rest). But on the last page of the booklet, there is an illustration from the front cover of "the live video package that was only released in Italy"(!!!!!!). Does anyone out there know of any way to purchase a copy of this video? I saw it once on a Norwegian TV channel called TVNorge, but unfortunately, no video recorder was around. Please help me! Regards, Dagfinn Utgård |
| Name: Molly Fanton Website: Molly's Pages Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-08-02 23:43:22 Comments: Hello, my name is Molly, and I just spotted this web site. I've been a huge fan of Talk Talk since 1984 when I first heard the song, "It's My Life". I've been hooked ever since. Now I read that Mark Hollis has a record out. I've looked at CDnow and Music Boulevard, but they don't have it. Does anybody know if it was released in the US? I really want it, because Mark Hollis was my favorite on Talk Talk. Thanks. |
| Name: Robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-01 13:12:17 Comments: re: Stefan again. One other thing. I think the sound you mean on 'Tommorow Started' is the same distorted synth-guitar sound that's on 'I Don't Believe In You' and 'Give It Up' (not live, the album version) - performed by Stock, Aitken and Waterman session player Ian Curnow. The sound of it on the live 'Does Caroline Know' is electrifying. Again, an amazing sound for 1984, especially when you consider some of the awful synth guitar that's been on some records since then. |
| Name: Robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-08-01 12:47:15 Comments: re: Stefan: Thanks for that info. All I've got to do is find one now! re: Jean Michel: Perhaps the fact that the Hammersmith recording on 'Talking Colours' sounds like it is unmixed (i.e. straight from the live desk) is the reason. I don't think Martin Ditcham played the drums on either LS or Spirit - listen to the Orang albums and the drums and percussion are still amazing, and really 'Lee Harris'. I just think that they ditched the close-miked tight 80's drum sound of 'Colour....' (the album they were promoting live at the time) in favour of a more ambient/distant-miked way of recording the drums a la Dave Brubeck, Miles Davis, Can etc.. After all, that is how you hear a drumkit in reality. If you haven't seen it already, take a look at G. Sutton's earlier entry concerning Harris (No. 70 - 20/7/98). |
| Name: jean michel Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: paris Time: 1998-07-31 22:53:48 Comments: I'm a drummer and throughout talk talk recordings i've a particular problem with Lee Harris' performance. i explain : to me spirit of eden and laughing stock drumparts sounds perfect and beautiful but the hammersmith odeon talk talk live shows us a Lee Harris drumming like a woodcutter, you know, no subtilities, he sounds and plays very loud, not very thin... On the two last talk talk records, he sounds so softly and jazzy that a friend of mine thinks that the drumparts are performed by Martin Ditcham, especially when he realized that Martin Ditcham played all the percussions on Mark Hollis album, and that these drumparts are very similar to the drums on Laughing Stock where he already played. Any comments ? Graham S., I'm looking for your record on vynil but it's impossible to find it in france, try to do something ! |
| Name: Stefan Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Berlin Time: 1998-07-30 18:48:24 Comments: re :Robin and Charles: the Variophon. You are right, Robin, the Vario(a)phon was built by the German manufacturer Realton from 1979 on. It`s a presetsynthesizer with exchangeable modules producing wind-instrument-like sounds. It`s played by a kind of wind-controller or a keyboard in combination with a breath-controller, so that modulation of volume and timbre is possible. The synthesis is analouge and was in those days (prior to the sampler) apparently a fairly good imitation of wind-instruments. Speaking of instruments and sounds. Does anybody know what that intriguing sound in `Tomorrow started` is (the semitone-"sigh" in the chorus)? It is so expressive! |
| Name: Robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: S.Yorkshire U.K. Time: 1998-07-29 11:55:59 Comments: re: Charles + the Variophon. Thanks for the reply. I wish we knew for sure because it sounds ace and I want one! I still think it might be the brand name of an instrument in it's own right - like the Kurtzweil that's credited on 'Colour Of Spring'. The reason for this is that I had heard that Tim F-G was a notorious collector of weird and wonderful instruments, which would explain the same sound turning up on the Heligoland ep. On Happiness Is Easy, Hollis is credited with 'instrumental' - it doesn't say what instrument but it's definitely the same sound again. I too once thought it was a trumpet but I now think it is an entirely seperate and obscure instrument. The expression it gives seems radically different to that of a normal trumpet, although the timbre is similar. Definitely some sort of brass instrument I reckon. The sound seems too pure to be recreated by a sampler (especially in 1986) and I reckon even a complex modern physical modelling synth would not be able to do it. In fact, I even tried on a Korg Z1 and didn't even come close! What a spod eh?! |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-07-29 09:32:50 Comments: I think a variophon is just a synthesizer. I think they used this word for keyboards because it sounds like an old fashion word. Variophon describes something that produces different sounds (vario : many, phon : sound), just like a synthesizer or a sampler. The first time I heard the trumpet solo on Happiness is easy, I was quite surprised because there are no trumpet player credited on the sleeve for this track. They must have used a sampler. It seems that they used the same sound for the long instrumental bridge of It's getting late in the evening. But maybe I'm wrong, any other comments ? |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: East Sussex UK Time: 1998-07-28 21:22:08 Comments: Robin.. Thank you. Might just give em' a shot. |
| Name: Robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-07-28 11:37:04 Comments: re: Mike. Orang - I haven't got 'Fields and Waves' yet but I would recommend the first album 'Herd Of Instinct' v. highly. For me it's more akin to the work of David Sylvian (think of the 'Rain Tree Crow' album) than TT, although there are still obvious comparisons. Track 3 'Mind on Pleasure' is a masterpeice. Loads of the Colour/Spirit/L Stock musicians appear on it along with Beth from Portishead and guestbook visitor Graham Sutton on guitar. Reminds me strongly of Can in places as well (Tago Mago period). Not very much like the Spice Girls. Heligoland - In my opinion, Tim Freise-Greene is fast moving away from the Talk Talk vibe nowadays. Wilfully rough recording and a very dense sound compared to TT's latter-day space. Not easy to compare to anything in fact. Passing similarities with My Bloody Valentine ('Loveless' period), but more or less out there on it's own. It's great to hear the Variophon (of 'April 5th/'Chameleon Day'/'It's Getting Late....' fame) used again. Does anyone know what a Variophon is? |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: East Sussex Time: 1998-07-28 09:59:45 Comments: Can anyone tell me what the music of Orang is like?. Is it in a similar vein to the last TT albums and MH solo ?. Its a lot of money to spend on speculation , I know its the wrong attitude, but I call it the Living Colour Experience. Im sure you remember their track Love rears its ugly head again, a great rock track, so I bought the album only to find it was (In my humble opinion) Garbage, except for that one track.I did a similar thing with Aztec Camera (Yes its true) only I bought all their albums!! after listening to 'knife' but at least they are'nt all bad tracks. So there you have it............Comments on Orang Heligoland etc please. Thanks. |
| Name: Stefan
Weber Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Berlin Time: 1998-07-23 21:31:51 Comments: jan, I could send you the discography by Brendan Jones as txt file. Just email privately. Stefan |
| Name: Jennybear41 Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-07-23 14:06:50 Comments: Thanks for the tabs Laurent I'm looking forward to sit and play Reneé. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-07-22 20:45:57 Comments: Graham Sutton - Will you please drop me an e-mail? |
| Name: Stuart Macdonald Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Glasgow Time: 1998-07-22 01:11:23 Comments: Graham, More Power to your uploads. Keep the goss coming. You are so right about those 80's remixes and have debated the debussy angle with friends a few times myself. Cheers. |
| Name: Graham Sutton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-07-21 17:01:31 Comments: Just one other thing. Lee gave me this outtake from the "Colour of Spring" sessions. About 12 minutes in length, instrumental, featuring strings,piano,dobro,percussion,the usual, very debussy. Apparently this was gonna be one whole side (eventually) Of "Colour" but was scrapped.The opening piano chord is the one that joins "Chameleon" to "Time". I still think it sounds wicked. Apparently (I could be wrong) it ended up in a true life film about a mountain climber who fell and paralysed himself. Even though its incomplete I still think it sounds wicked. Some of the chord changes ended up in "Give it up", and, curiously, the track "colour of spring" form "MH". EMI own the rights to this. You might have enthused over the Asides.. thingy a liitle less if you knew they were still hanging onto this!! (Who wants the crap '80s 12" mixes???!!!) I'm gonna try and upload it at some point. See ya. |
| Name: Graham Sutton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-07-21 16:48:13 Comments: Yeah I do my own bits and pieces. I've known Lee for about 8 years now, worked on his Orang stuff, and also worked with Phill Brown in my previous band. For "Balance.." I took a load of Lee's hits to construct into breaks to resample, chopup etc. I'm currently 6 months into working on a new album where Lee will be the utter backbone. He's a true gent and in my humble opinion, a genius drummer. No one sounds like him or can touch him. Fuck James Lavelle nicking "New Grass"!!!! Why not get the real mccoy??? Things are going slowly but surely (am just building a new studio); its gonna be a lot "liver" soundwise, but not straight up "unplugged"!!! Recording it in an old warehouse with Lee and a bunch of others. Hopefully working with Nicolette on some of it. Changing the subject, its interesting the misinformation you got about the UNKLE album. You all know that originally Polydor had refused to release "Mark Hollis" (this after all the hoohah with Warne Livesy), and at one point, when Keith and Mark were looking around for someone to put it out it looked like MO WAX were going to release it. Trivial titbit I know... As for the sarcasm/sincerity thing running through his stuff, for me that's where the real power comes from. Its that dichotomy between your hopes and aspirations and reality. Just a thought. tata. |
| Name: jan Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: holland Time: 1998-07-20 20:09:57 Comments: great homepage, but does anyone has a (complete?) discographic. I'm afraid I'm still missing some items.... |
| Name: Laurent
DALMASSO Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: FRANCE Time: 1998-07-20 09:10:38 Comments: Hello ! You can find Talk Talk guitar tabs at this site http://www.psiron.demon.co.uk for the follwoing tracks: April 5th, I believe in you, I don't believe in you, It's my life, Living in another world, Renee, the Colour of Spring (Mark solo album). Bye Bye. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: East Sussex England Time: 1998-07-18 21:35:07 Comments: Ive just listened to the new Hollis solo album and it is pretty amazing, at the same time 'Im not too suprised at what it is. He clearly has'nt lost any of the magic from the last two TT albums. Does anyone eslae want to comment?. |
| Name: chris haquin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Santiago, Chile Time: 1998-07-18 03:30:41 Comments: your page is super!, go on! |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: England Time: 1998-07-16 22:46:41 Comments: Happiness is Easy !!!!! Cool site. TT blow me away every time especailly Living in another world, full volume with massive bass. |
| Name: Chris Dodd Website: Purple Pudding Place Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: USA Time: 1998-07-15 02:29:08 Comments: Hello! I'm back! Please: to all of my friends and people who have contacted me through this site: get back in touch with me. My computer crashed and I've had a long road back. For everyone else-HI. I'm a pretty huge TT fan who would love to talk with anyone about the music this great group made. I'd also love to help people find any rare music they might be searching for, in return for the same. I'll look forward to hearing from you. |
| Name: D. G. Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: Berlin Time: 1998-07-10 10:06:48 Comments: Hi out there! Is there anyone around the TT fans who is also listening to Wave/Gothic? I think of bands like Dead Can Dance, And Also The Trees, Current 93...Would be nice! |
| Name: Gianni Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Florence,Italy Time: 1998-07-07 17:48:54 Comments: Mi piacerebbe comunicare con persone che amano come me mark Hollis e i Talk Talk,avere notizie su questo perchč non conoscendo bene l'inglese quello che c'č scritto in questo sito lo capisco poco. I'd like speak with all fans. |
| Name: charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-07-06 11:50:35 Comments: Scott don't shut down your page!!!!!!!! |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-07-03 13:45:27 Comments: False alert ! Mark Hollis is not playing on the U.N.K.L.E. album entitled Psyence Fiction. The truth is that on the track called Rabbit In Your Headlight sung by Thom Yorke, they use Lee Harris' drumpart of New Grass and they accelerated just a little bit. While speaking of Lee Harris, you can hear his contributions on the Boymerang album called Balance Of The Force which was released one year ago. I can't say if he performed some real drum parts on this album or just rythm programming. Maybe Graham Sutton (who was once a guest on this forum) will be able to confirm this... |
| Name: Kett Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: California Time: 1998-07-02 22:34:07 Comments: While Spirit of Eden has never been my favorite Talk Talk album, for the sake of completeness I recently purchased the remastered version, and I was pleasantly astonished at the remarkably improved soundscape of the entire album. There is a lot of background stuff going on in there that was completely masked by the muddy mastering of my old domestic CD, and I am finally able to enjoy this ambitious work with the clarity and nuance that it deserves. For anyone else that may be hesitating to upgrade their old CD's, do yourself a favor and toss out that old Eden and pick up a restored masterpiece instead... |
| Name: SPARKADELIC Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF BRITAIN Time: 1998-06-30 19:15:08 Comments: Hi to all , i've looked in here many times with great interest , but i've finally thought it time to add to the comments , well first i'd like to put a question , does anyone know why a song titled " crying in the rain " is as far as i know never really surfaced it certainly should be resurected , if it has ever i don't know, but i personally think it is as good as any of the work on " the colour of spring " . Also does anyone know of any images of James Marsh that are available , at the moment i have prints of "eden" , " best of ", " laughing" but i certainly would like more as they make the whole subject as well as the music of talk talk very important to me ,i found a phone number for James Marsh but i don't think that it is correct just to call it ?. Finally does anyone think that the video from the live show will ever be re-released , i was hoping with the current activitey of EMI it may be a consideration ?. Can anyone quantify to me the differances between the original cd's and the remasters in terms of the sound are they worth buying all over again.? Thanks John , SPARKADELIC@LINEONE.NET |
| Name: J. Pukkila Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: Finland Time: 1998-06-28 05:27:32 Comments: Hi everyone. Does anyone know if Talk Talk ever released a track called "Scorpio Sound"? I have found it in a record shop listing. It's supposed to be a promo tape with two mixes of the track: 3.53 & 6.18. The tape is from 1990. I have never heard of it before, so I'm suspicious. I also searched the discography and the discussion forum but there's no mention of it anywhere. Could it be an unreleased track? Any info is appreciated. Please also answer to my own e-mail address, so I will know ASAP. Thanks, --JP |
| Name: Jonas Juul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-06-25 13:28:27 Comments: Re: tribute album. I think it's a great idea. I know that if I hat a band, I would love to tribute to such a album. |
| Name: Angus Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dundee, Scotland Time: 1998-06-25 10:35:12 Comments: re: Mars. I reckon that whilst tribute albums are great shows of support for a band, they are rarely if ever as good as the originals, especially in the case of a multi-faceted band like Talk Talk. I don't think anybody else could do their stuff justice (or even make it a hundredth as good), let alone improve on it. |
| Name: Mars Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Toronto Time: 1998-06-23 21:47:15 Comments: I have to say that I've been quite pleased with EMI's recent work on the TT catalogue. The remasters are great, I can finally retire my vinyl gems and if I can just get my hands on a copy of Talking Colours, I can die a happy man. But. But. But. And I don't know if anyone else has ever wondered about this...wouldn't it be really cool to walk into your local music shop and find a Talk Talk tribute album? That would have to be the most decent show of support for such ground-breaking music. Or is it just me? |
| Name: Jay
Collins Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: USA Time: 1998-06-19 19:02:49 Comments: Hi Talk Talk fans: I am new to talk talk and heard of them through Catherine Wheel. Of course when I say "new," this isn't entirely correct, since I knew them when I was in Junior High (It's My Life and Talk Talk). Anyway, I bought the "Colour of Spring" album and love it. What should I buy next? Should I buy the remasters? Do they have extra tracks? Also, I was wondering if anyone in the US sells the Heglioland (sp?) EP? Or if anyone knows how to get it. Thanks for any help in advance Jay Collins jhcollin@ls.wustl.edu |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-06-17 12:37:01 Comments: Mark Hollis is back... As a singer on a musical project called U.N.K.L.E. initiated by Josh Davis (DJ Shadow), Thom Yorke (Radiohead) and Richard Ashcroft (The Verve). Some other musicians are invited like Mike D (Beastie Boys) and... Mark Hollis. The album called Psyence Fiction is planned to be released on august 24. |
| Name: Simon Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-06-14 20:33:17 Comments: I'm after a Talk Talk live video (PAL/VHS). Any ideas? Could someone make me a copy of theirs. Thanks, Simon |
| Name: Valeria
Szychowska Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Canberra, AUSTRALIA Time: 1998-06-13 13:22:34 Comments: Just a note to say hello and that it's comforting to know the appreciation of Talk Talk and Mark Hollis music is alive and well around the world! I thought I'd add my comments to the debate of best TT Albums, naturally I believe they're all classics! my personal favourite is 'Spirit of Eden'. HOWEVER, when I listened to Mark Hollis' latest, my heart melted, it is definitely something special! |
| Name: Anthony
Horan Website: My, err, home page. Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Melbourne, Australia Time: 1998-06-10 12:01:23 Comments: Well, I finally tracked down a copy of Asides Besides; finally, finally I have songs like "It's Getting Late..." on CD, and that's a thrill easily worth the hefty price tag (well, hefty from over here, anyway :-) Interestingly, though, another mystery has surfaced. After the mysterious inclusion of the Rhett Davies-produced "single mix" of the song Talk Talk on the "Very Best Of" CD (I have several 7" singles of that song, and they're all the Colin Thurston version), now follows a mystery mix of "Why Is It So Hard" on the new double CD. The booklet insists it's the "debut" of the single version; well, the "short" version has been on CD before, on an 80s compile called, I think, "Sedated In The 80s" (I'll have to dig it out and check the exact title). It was, of course, also on vinyl on the "First Born" soundtrack album. But the mix on "Asides Besides" matches neither - it's a completely different mix, minus almost all the guitars in the original. Anyone know where this one might have come from? Finally, a question I've been hoping to find the answer to for years - does anyone know what happened to Colin Thurston, producer of "The Party's Over" as well as the first 2 Duran albums - and also, anyone know why his production credits were removed from both the CD release of "TPO" and from the tracks her produced on "The Very Best Of"? And that's quite enough trainspotting from me. Love the new Hollis album by the way. It's like coming home. - Anthony |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-06-09 15:18:16 Comments: Re: Ordinary Psycho - I intended to add my views ealier, but exams had to take priority ! I have to say I was very very impressed with the promo CD - some of the instrumental parts reminded me very much of some of Bark Psychosis' finer moments - very laid back and emotive. The vocals are impressive too - at times I heard echoes of China Crisis, but maybe I'm searching for comparisons a little ! I would definitely recommend everyone to request a promo if you haven't already - I can't wait for the album ! |
| Name: David
Gulvin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-06-09 12:49:18 Comments: I just thought I'd communicate a word to you about ORDINARY PSYCHO, who with the very kind permission of Henrik who runs this site, have a free promo CD offer tagged to this site. Thanks to everyone who have replied so far, I've had well over 80 responses so keep them coming. Sorry for not always being able to reply directly to your e-mails, this is because my e-mail still runs on CCMAIL so each internet reply has to be set up individually. Soon I will set up an email mailing list to keep you updated. A website of their own is being planned now. I'd dearly appreciate all of you who have received CD's to e-mail me your response, even if you don't like OP (God forbid!) Piggybacking comparative artists on the web is part of the early promotion for OP so you guys with CD's are some of the earliest fans. I suggest you hang on to them, and tell your friends now, so that they believe you in a few years time when you say, "I was into OP years ago, when they first started on the Talk Talk Web!" Any suggestions like the one about Roger Waters most welcome. Thanks again to all TT fans supporting OP. |
| Name: leon Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Tempe, Arizona Time: 1998-06-08 14:35:00 Comments: I recently stumbled onto this web site and I am quite happy to see that I am not the only admirer of Talk Talk out there. I spent a good portion of the day scouring the local shops for a copy of the Mark Hollis solo album.....to no avail. I really look forward to hearing this work as I have been listening to the band for quite some time now (I am especially fond of the last three albums). I'm sure that with a little persistence I'll find a copy. I am not a collector, but reading some of the postings has aroused my interest in finding some of those b-sides and rarities. If anyone can help me to locate some of this material in Arizona, I would be very grateful. |
| Name: michael
bridgeman Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: pennsylvania Time: 1998-06-07 20:42:33 Comments: talk talk rules!!!! |
| Name: Matthew
Gerbel Website: Novasoul design Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Los Angeles, California USA Time: 1998-06-06 19:51:48 Comments: Ahhh. What a nice place it is here in Talk Talk land. I've been a fan since hearing "talk talk" in the "dance club" scene in the movie "Night Shift" (w/ Batman no.1, Fonzie, & Diane). I love all of their directions. I'm desparately looking forward to the live "Laughing Colours" CD!!! Anybody out there know the track listing of this cd? I just can't seem to get enough of the few live tracks I do have. "Renee - live" could be an hour long by itself and I'd be happy. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-06-05 19:20:51 Comments: re: me. Sorry- symbolic not iconoclastic! |
| Name: Robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-06-05 19:00:58 Comments: re: Kevin. I find it difficult to disagree with most of your reply - it is difficult for an individual to prenounce their faith in such a secular age as this, especially as eloquently as MH. Sarcasm and atheism somehow do seem too one-dimentional as words to describe the sentiments expressed in his music, and yet I still find it hard to believe that Hollis is an adherent of any one particular religion. The doubts you mention seem to be more fundamental to him than a natural questioning of belief. The line you quote from 'New Grass' (...'Christendom may come West') seem to reveal Hollis' inability to reconcile his own faith in God with the acts and teachings of earthly religions. The references to religion (including the positive ones) in his SOE and LS lyrics always make me think this. I think he may well have used the iconoclastic imagery of Catholicism to illustrate this conflict. I'm not denying that Hollis seems to have a faith that is derived in some very personal way from the plethora of Christian teachings - that now seems obvious - but I'm still unconvinced as to whether this faith can be served by an existing religion. |
| Name: Kevin Mc Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Indiana, USA Time: 1998-06-05 14:47:35 Comments: re: Jimmy Finn. I remember seeing a citation to an article (I don't remember what publication) about a British lawyer name James Finn. The article was entitled, "James Finn: the last lawyer with integrity" or something like that. It seemed to fit Hollis' lyric but I never found the article. |
| Name: Jeremy Morrow Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Time: 1998-06-05 04:30:20 Comments: Hi there. I'm interested in trading Talk Talk material, rare stuff specifically. I've been a huge fan of Talk Talk but haven't managed to get a lot of their stuff other than the albums and a paltry few singles. I like to trade MP3s mainly and The The and Talk Talk are my two favourite bands. I have a dedicated cable modem conenction to the net and 13 gigs of drive space and I'm interested in creating a space for trading MP3s with other interested Talk Talk fans in a discreet manner. Granted, this isn't very discreet, but quite frankly I'm desperate. Now don't get me wrong, I support Talk Talk in a second, but the stuff is just so hard to find. I am NOT interested in trading MP3s with people that is of stuff currently in print. There's no point, you should support one of the best bands in the history of music, but for really rare stuff that you just can't find anywhere, I find this more than acceptable. Please write me if you are interested. Jeremy (Hamilton, Ontario, Canada) d23 (ICQ# 1500427) ( <-- Much easier to reach me here as I'm on a dedicated internet connection and this is always up ) |
| Name: Colin
Donald Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-06-05 03:16:32 Comments: Re: John Cope. Correct me if any of my history is a bit sketchy...During the Jacobite Rebellion (1745) one of the English generals who was involved in battling the Scots was called John Cope. ( Later the subject of a Scottish ballad entitled "Hey Johnnie Cope"). I can't recall much more about him, but it seems to fit with the "weapons at my feet" refrain. As for Jimmy Finn, he's either fictional or some criminal somewhere. Anyone know? As for the readings of religious content, I instantly - and always since - assumed that "Happiness Is Easy" was laced heavily with sarcasm. The way that the children sing seems very in-keeping with this, as well as Hollis' vocal style. Perhaps he experienced some form of conversion between TCOS and SOE which led " I Don't Believe In you " to lose its negative aspect. Also, much of his lyrical output seems similar to William Blake's, esp. "Songs of Innocence and Experience", although Hollis has denied any influence. Oh well... |
| Name: Kevin Mc Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Indiana Time: 1998-06-04 15:35:35 Comments: re: Robin. It seems that possibly the post-modern assumption of irony and sarcasm may be guiding your interpretation of Hollis' lyrics. I agree with you that there is a great deal of searching on Colour of Spring and it would be foolish to reduce Hollis' lyrics to a single perspective. But even in Happiness Is Easy there are lines such as: "Try to teach my children/to recognize excuse before it acts/from love and conviction to pray." The refrain, while possibly not a hearty endorsement of religion, does not seem aimed at indicting Christianity but to caution the abusers of religion who use it for earthly gain. I would agree with Brad's comments about Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock that Hollis must be involved with some form of Catholicism (Roman, English, Eastern). In "Eden" there are poetic (and very beautiful) references to the Church: "Easter's heir" and "The Flower crushed conceives/a Child of fragrance so much clearer in legacy." ("The Flower" being a reference to Christ.") "Wealth" is clearly a prayer and the gospel quality of the arrangement adds to that effect. By "New Grass" there can be little doubt that Hollis has embraced religion. The sacraments stem directly from the community of the Church. Of course, that doesn't mean that he without his misgivings. "New Grass" does include the line "Someday Christendom may come westward" which would seem to indicate a discontent with the current state of western churches. So yes, as with any honest believer, he struggles, but given that the last three Talk Talk albums have positive religious references, I cannot imagine that he is being sarcastic. Personally I find it very refreshing to hear such intimate reflections on religion in what is generally a purely secular and often anti-religious medium--i.e. rock music. And I haven't heard much Christian rock, but what I have heard has left me sorely disappointed. Hollis' approach to writing about his beliefs reveals a more honest, and therefore more powerful, perspective than such simplistic, one-dimensional didacticism. In fact, even much of the modern "sacred" music sung in churches lacks the true spirit which I find in his poetry. It is no small feat for him to make such bold pronouncements of faith in this day, and to make them so beautifully no less. |
| Name: crawford Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: london Time: 1998-06-03 19:38:10 Comments: Message for Graham Sutton who has recently posted a message. Are you Graham Sutton as in Boymerang? If so, I would very much like to talk with you sometime, Many Thanks, Crawford |
| Name: Erik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dublin Time: 1998-06-02 13:52:29 Comments: I received the Ordinary Psycho CD also. It's good, the vocals reminded me of early 80's band 'the lotus eaters'. As for AV1, after a large number of listens i'm still not convinced. I was hoping for something along the lines of David Sylvians ambient work on 'Gone to Earth' or 'Flux & Mutilbility' but AV1 is too 'avant-garde' for my tastes. I'll give it more time, I'm determined to like it. It cost me 18 quid !!! |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-06-02 10:48:09 Comments: re: Brad. Cool observations! I think Hollis' words definitely show him to be a Christian racked by doubt if he is one at all. It's just that lyrically, I've always taken the Colour of Spring album to be a call to find one's own spiritual haven without the need to identify with the constraints of an organised religion . For the most part split between bitter words of regret over unfullfilled goals and needs (I Don't Believe In You, Give It Up, ...Another World, Chameleon Day)- and words of unabashed hope amidst the crisis (Life's..., April 5th, Time It's Time), the track 'Happiness Is Easy' has always stood out. Whilst the other tracks seem so personal and inward-looking, it's subject matter projects outwards in the form of what I see as an attack on organised religion, specifically Christianity. The verses seem so vitriolic and the chorus heavily tinged with sarcasm. I always took the children's chorus part to be REALLY sarcastic! But I reckon you're right about the subsequent albums. The religious imagery for me gets much more clandestine in its meaning the further you get towards 'Mark Hollis'. Like you, I get the impression that 'Spirit' and 'LS' are the embodiment of found spirituality (of some sort!) after the ideological storm of 'Colour Of Spring'. Whilst I suspect he may have lost his religion, the lyrics you mention point to the fact that he may well have found God. Some return speculation for you from a rainswept Yorkshire! Take care. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Guildford, UK Time: 1998-06-01 13:25:27 Comments: Re: Stuart. Couldn't agree more about 'Desire'. Those seven words, set to that music, have to comprise the most eloquently succinct expression of the onset of obsessive lust in all of music. And I love the guitar/percussion wig-out. :-) On a different tack, I invested in 'AV1' and 'Asides Besides' at the weekend... After listening to 'AV1' I did something I don't think I've ever done with a CD before: I took it back to the shop and got a refund. Sorry, but I want more for 15 quid than 50 minutes of ambient sound and one drum loop. Hollis' 14-and-a-half-minute piano piece didn't grab me either. A bit *too* skeletal and minimalist for my taste. On the other hand, after hearing 'John Cope' and 'It's Getting Late In The Evening' for the first time, I would gladly have paid the price of a double CD just to hear those two tracks. :-) |
| Name: Graham Sutton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-06-01 11:57:09 Comments: It only takes a cursory glance at either lyrics or titles to see how much MH enjoys playing with words and being incredibly self-referential. I Believe/Don't Believe In You, Runeii/Renee/ Myrrhman/Mirrorman/ Ascension Day/Chameleon Days, The Colour Of Spring etc,etc. The list is endless. Hours of fun for all. The "Myrrh" of "Myrrhman" is a reference to death. You need to do a bit more digging around! |
| Name: Stuart (again) Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-06-01 01:37:11 Comments: Did anyone else get the Ordinary Psycho promo offered by David Gulvin on the News page. I thought it was great but was surprised he thought TT fans would like it even though this one did. Reminded me of Roger Waters and Floyd as well as Simon and Garfunkle (just one of the tracks vocals). Any other info anyone knows about the band would be appreciated. Would recommend to all. |
| Name: Stuart Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Glasgow Time: 1998-06-01 01:30:11 Comments: I would like to agree with most of what Brad mentioned regarding the Later TT albums. I also feel that the represent a spiritual journey especially LS. Has anyone else ever though about a "Mirror Man" and "Myrrhman" connection. Mark Hollis aways sneers at any mention of his 1982 work and I always thought of this as Myrrhman being some cryptic reference to being bitter (Myrrh) about his earlier work always being dragged up at interviews. Obviously the track sits well among the others but it was just a thought. Was this another attempt if a cryptic one, to show the distance he had travelled musically. Does anyone have any comments regarding "Desire" This is arguably one of my own favourites. I have found that if you start with this track it can sound very OTT and wild and totally without stucture but when placed in the context of the album it sits very well. I noticed on the CD we have 4 tracks insted of the expected 6 and after a few listens began see the reason behind the bands reluctance to produce singles. In my mind too TT had stopped producing songs/singles and had moved on to producing ALBUMS. Journalists prattle on about soundscapes and other such pretense, however, personally this was the first time I had come across such a collection whose whole was truly greater than the sum of its parts. Desire wispered ... spoken In time ... rivers ... oceans How true. This is how desire has always been for me. Latent and then suddenly strong and how perfectly this is captured and by the wild and often confused rhythms. If anyone has their own thoughts on the track I would love to hear them. |
| Name: Bradley Birzer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Helena, Montana, USA Time: 1998-06-01 00:01:03 Comments: Robin--great message. Apologies on my part for getting you confused with R. B. The two Rs confused me. As to Hollis's religiousity, I agree it's hard to discern. When I first heard "Happiness is Easy" (spring of 1987 for me), I thought for sure it was pro-Christian. Then, in the next year or so, I changed my mind on this a couple of times. It's really hard to know if "take good care of what the priests say, after death it's so much fun" is sarcastic or not. I'm inclined (especially after SPIRIT OF EDEN and LS) to think it's pro-Christian, and heavily so. And, with the children's chorus singing, "Jesus, star so bright," it seems pro-Christian. Other examples: I assume "Easter's heir" from "Eden" is a reference to all of humanity post-Jesus; "Wealth" seems like a prayer worthy of St. Augustine (in fact, one of Augustine's prayers sounds suspiciously like Hollis's); "Seven sacraments to song, Versed in Christ should strength desert me" in "New Grass." Perhaps stretching it a bit, "After the Flood" (a reference, I assume, to post-diluvian/Noahitic times) seems a critique of a secularizing (non-Judeo-Christian) western civilization. Finally, the whole of SPIRIT OF EDEN and LS seem to be about an individual finding God, being humbled by the experience, losing God, and finding Him again. There's considerable angst, redemption, and loss in both albums. Lyrically, they seem much more coherent than the first three albums. Anyway, just some thoughts on a stormy Sunday Montana afternoon. Brad. |
| Name: Robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-30 22:45:34 Comments: re: Brad. I can't help you with the post-Hegelianism - you'll have to wait for R.B. on that one! What I meant by 'middle-class' was the sheeplike tendency of certain music journalists/publications to damn anything that was not perceived cool by the so-called 'kids'. i.e. not having a clue about what cool actually is, they throw their lot in with any passing scene or band that is supposed to represent the 'zeigeist' and smugly suppose that this will gain the credibility points they ache for. Especially if they manage to rubbish any deviants along the way in a clever article. Nevertheless, I have never read any Marx advocating pointless sneering cynicism. As to Hollis' possible Christianity, (I assume you meant either Anglican or Catholic) I always thought he might be an atheist - 'Happiness Is Easy'. What do you think? re: R Baldridge. Interesting, but I still think you're being overtly harsh on Hollis. If it is not possible to claim Cage as a rightful musical influence unless you are a high-brow classical instrumentalist or musicologist, surely that renders his work utterly meaningless anywhere outside of the web encrusted library of some far flung music school. Is that really all that Cage's music amounts to? Personally, I think it is an idea I think he would have hated. I undertand the point that you love Hollis' music whilst finding his explanations of it a little pretentious, but you can't shoot down an artists influences like that without treading on dodgy ground. They're too personal and too intermingled with the musician's own experience to dismiss them out of hand. Like it or not, Hollis' music from 'Spirit' onwards is the sound of his influences moving on from the Police (don't fret Police fans - they were great) to Satie, Miles Davis, Can etc. because of an obvious personal love of that music. Hollis was already saying that he didn't need or want the money or publicity by the time of 'Spirit' so why would he need to, as you say, trot out a list of influences purely in order to appear more 'meaningful'?. Especially in the light of the music. I mean, you can hardly get the guy to do interviews at all, let alone use them for personal aggrandizement. |
| Name: Brad Birzer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Helena, Montana, USA Time: 1998-05-30 18:42:36 Comments: Re: Kevin and Robin's discussion. Your sentiments on RS are great. Robin--I was curious what you meant by middle class and post-Hegelian? RS, a definite and continuing product of the late 60s/early 70s American generation, represents a bizarre adulturation of Marxian/(left)Hegelian thought with consumer/materialist culture. In other words, much to their chagrin, they're trapped in their upper middle class roots but very much want to break free. I think that's why they think "below the belt" as Kevin put it, but still retain leftist pretensions. At RS, only P.J. O'Rourke has moved beyond that, and while he's anti-Marxist, he epitomizes hedonism. Hollis's music and lyrics, of course, epitomizes spiritualism ("Seven Sacrements to Song"), and I assume he's a practicing Catholic--either Anglican or Roman. That would be completely incomprehensible for the RS generation. As to Hollis's pretension, I see it as depth of character and soul. Most deeply spiritual individuals probably seem a bit freakish to people around them. I assume that's especially so at RS. Just some thoughts. |
| Name: r.
baldridge Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: New York Time: 1998-05-29 21:21:09 Comments: Kevin Mc, Robin, etc.: No, there is nothing that prevents Cage from being a legitimate influence of Hollis'. I acknowledge that he probably is one. But as we were discussing glibness and pretense, my comment seems equally legitimate. As you know, Cage's work is extremely cerebral, bridging the nether territories between music and visual/performance art. While Cage's pieces certainly involved chance associations (prepared pianos, subjective notations, etc), it is difficult to see how Hollis uses him as an influence in any more than a purely reductive manner. When he claims Cage as an influence, he is engaging in game of semiotics. Like Eno (who is similarly shameless in trotting out portentious sounding influences), Hollis seems at times more interested in being perceived as meaningful than in imparting meaning. In a time when architects, artists, graphic designers and musicians alike feel it necessary to imbue their work with post-Hegelian patter and the ghosts of seemingly unassailable influences, a discussion of depth v. glibness is manifestly appropriate. Importantly, Hollis' work stands on its own. Remember that this entire discussion arose from a condemnation of Hollis by rolling stone: an off-target article dismissing Hollis as a Simon Le Bon wannabe who matured into a pretentious bore. I completely disagree with such a characterization. Notwithstanding, Hollis clearly walks a knife edge between pretense and meaning. While I adore his work, I do get a bit turned off at the way he explains it. |
| Name: Kevin Mc Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Indiana, USA Time: 1998-05-29 14:42:25 Comments: re: r. baldridge. I'm confused. What is it about Cage that prevents him from being a possible influence? His music is readily available on CD. His philosophical approach to music had an enormous impact on what we define as "music." It seems to me that his approach shares much in common with the recording method used in the later Talk Talk work: set up the parameters of a situation and wait for chance and inspiration to "happen." Some of Stockhausen's music also shares this. Hollis is 43(?) years old and his compositional style has been maturing over a period of nearly 20 years now. Classical, jazz, and blended genre's seem obvious directions for him. |
| Name: Ferenc Rozsa Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Budapest, Hungary Time: 1998-05-29 08:48:17 Comments: Hi Laurent. I've interest your trading Talk Talk records/CDs. But sorry, I can't to use the return e-mail set in Discussion Forum, when I click on your name. If possible send me your e-mail address. Kind regards. Ferenc. (E-mail: frozsa@hotmail.com) |
| Name: Chris Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-28 20:43:31 Comments: re Dag/Henrik; Dif Juz, to my knowledge, released three albums on 4AD in the 80s - Huremics (consisting of four tracks titled Hu, re, mi and cs !!), Vibrating Air and Extractions. The first two of these were instrumental, but Extractions had some vocals by Liz Fraser of the Cocteau Twins. You can find a full Dif Juz discography at www.evo.org/html/group/difjuz.html. Alternatively, check out the 4AD website (www.4ad.com) from which you can mailorder 4AD releases - although Extractions is the only one still available. I can recommend all the albums, especially Huremics which, while more electronic than Talk Talk, is in a similar vein... |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-28 19:07:46 Comments: re: r. baldridge. I take your point but does that make Talk Talk's music pretentious? (Which is what RS were basically saying.) Why can't Cage be an influence? Does being part of the avant garde exclude you from influencing those that are not 'in it'? Is Hollis's music outside of the avant-garde? (P.S. This is a cool discussion!) |
| Name: r.
baldridge Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: New York Time: 1998-05-28 16:11:21 Comments: Re: Robin & Charles. Talk Talk and Hollis are great. True originals. But Cage? As an influence? Come on. Such a claim is pure pretension for anyone outside of the avant garde. |
| Name: Kevin
McCormick Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Indiana, USA Time: 1998-05-28 14:14:46 Comments: Hooray to Robin! The self-proclaimed supremacy of Rolling Stone has long been a pet peeve of mine. The word "pretentious" is used by RS writers to cover their inadequacy at understanding any music which asks listeners to think above the waist. The Rolling Stone "review" couldn't even get past the It's My Life era without getting confused. The only seemingly justifiable use of the word pretentious in reference to Talk Talk would be the ridiculous videos they did for The Party's Over songs. Sure, it's what lots of bands were doing at the time--but that's no excuse. Songwriting and acting are two very different skills. As to his Hollis' interviews, I don't really read glibness into his comments. If his influences are Miles and Cage then his mentioning them is simply honesty. Quite the opposite of pretension. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: u.k. Time: 1998-05-28 11:35:17 Comments: re: Charles, Paris. Yes, they are sadly deaf and stupid at Rolling Stone. Probably wouldn't give them an interview or something. I think it's a very sad hack that levels the (over-used and usually mis-used) word 'pretentious' at any band who fails to resemble Bucks Fizz or whatever. Mark Hollis may be glib in his interviews, but this does not make TT 'pretentious'. Sour grapes like that is usually the sign of spotty middle-class music music journalism ( a hot bed of pretense if ever there was one ) unable to articulate its confusion at any music that defies categorisation. Brawn instead of intellect. Surely artists that put style and commerciality over content are the pretentious ones? I wouldn't even have cared if the writer had tried to put together a decent argument; but for an outfit with as long an industry standing as Rolling Stone, to resort to 12 year old level playground taunts just seem really sad. R.S. - sack yourselves you chimps! |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-27 21:57:15 Comments: Feltham is fantastic. His solo on "Living in another world" is incredible but nothing compares to the way I felt (no pun intended) when I heard his contribution on "The Rainbow" for the first time. I was totally paralyzed by the beauty. His "sound" is very distinctive. I knew a girl once who played the first album of Texas for me. Suddenly I said to her: "I bet this is Mark Feltham playing that harmonica" which it proved to be. She's was very impressed ;-) A list of his contributions (the Texas album not included) can be found here: http://205.186.189.2/cg/AMG.exe?sql=B75535 |
| Name: John Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Texas Time: 1998-05-27 21:36:46 Comments: More about Mark Feltham: Indeed, Feltham has some rich band history and was not always just a session player. Feltham was a founding member of a great early 80's English roots rock band called Nine Below Zero. NBZ was heavily influenced by the blues and is so far and away different than Talk Talk, it's hardly imaginable. I think NBZ put out a couple of albums "Don't point your finger" and "Live at the Marque" which aren't in print any more. I own both of them. It's not terribly original or complicated music, but it does feature contain some rather blistering harmonic work by Feltham. NBZ also made an appearance on the British comedy The Young Ones, doing a great song called "Eleven past Eleven." NBZ broke up and the leader singer, Dennis someone, formed a group called The Truth. I wouldn't be surprised if Feltham made an appearance on some Truth albums as well. |
| Name: r.
baldridge Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: New York Time: 1998-05-27 20:39:19 Comments: I was interested to read (herein) that Mark Eitzel is a fan of New Grass. Like TT, American Music Club often explored the relationships and adjacencies of silence and dissonance, but it was not until 60 Watt Silver Lining (Eitzel's first solo release) that he began to toy with the linearity of his songs -- which spring in the most reductive sense from an american roots tradition. I recommend it highly. Also, a note to Charles (below) egarding the rolling stone link. I think at a certain level one must accept pretension as one of Talk Talk's principal foibles. The glibness alone with which Hollis trots out his influences (Miles, Cage, Dylan) is enough to cause one to wince. An even assessment of Hollis music does not invalidate its influence or meaning. That having been said, what more could one expect from a payola outfit like rolling stone. |
| Name: Ian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-27 20:03:08 Comments: re: Mike. I agree with you wholeheartedly - Mark Feltham is an amazing player whose contribution to TT and Hollis's music since 'Colour Of Spring' is so integral, I can't imagine Hollis's voice without it. I've seen his name on a couple of records: "Dogs Of Lust" by The The is one. I noticed that Paul Webb also makes a vocal appearance on the album "Dusk" which this track was taken from. Matt Johnson must be mates with them..... He's also on an Oasis track from one of the singles from their second album. A couple of players from 'Laughing Stock' also appear if I remember. I think it's called 'The Masterplan'. |
| Name: Mike Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: UK Time: 1998-05-27 15:50:55 Comments: Before getting to the main point I want to raise I'd like to add my voice to the many others who have praised this Web page and its author. We owe Henrik much gratitude for providing this wonderful source of TT/Hollis information and especially this forum. I have waited a long time to be able to discuss the music of Talk Talk. Anyway, here's what I wanted to say... From a quick trawl through previous messages, there appears to have been no mention of what I consider to be just as indispensible a constituent of Talk Talk's music as Hollis's voice, Lee Harris's drumming, or Tim F-G's production. I'm talking about the harmonica-playing of Mark Feltham. MH's solo album reminded me how much I love, and had missed, his playing. His organic, fluid soloing never fails to grip me and leave me wanting to hear more. The range of sounds he can conjure from a harmonica is just amazing... He can blow an abstract cluster of notes and have it come out *perfect*. (Just think of 'The Daily Planet', for example.) Quintessentially Talk Talk, in other words. :-) I did a search on the Web recently, hoping to find more information about him and was disappointed to find very little indeed. He was mentioned among the personnel on an album called 'Stone To Flesh' by ex-Japan members Steve Jansen and Richard Barbieri (see www.demon.co.uk/medium-prod/StoF.html) which I've since bought and have hardly stopped playing. MF contributes typically eloquent and bluesy solos to a couple of tracks. The album as a whole is thoroughly enjoyable. There's a lot of Talk Talk in there, as well as some 'Meddle'-era Pink Floyd. Highly recommended listening. So in the absence of Web sites devoted to MF (which was perhaps a little much to hope for), does anyone here know much about him? Has he ever been in a band full-time or is he 'just' a session player? Who else has he worked with? Where's he from? How old is he? If I like his playing, who else should I investigate? |
| Name: Erik
Abbink Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Almelo, Holland Time: 1998-05-27 14:16:46 Comments: Mountains of the moon is the working title of the Mark Hollis solo CD. In dutch press it was announced as Mountains of the Moon till the very end of December 97. Then came the message that it would finally be released as Mark Hollis. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris, France Time: 1998-05-27 13:57:55 Comments: I found something funny at the Rolling Stone Magazine homepage. I don't know if their people are deaf or what, but read that at the following URL : www.rollingstone.com/sections/artists/text/guide.asp?LookupString=1368 |
| Name: Si_W Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Chippenham, Wilts Time: 1998-05-27 12:22:58 Comments: I have to disagree with the recent comments about Disc A of Asides Besides. Each to their own of course, but I love listening to a lot of the old 12" mixes and have recently bought discs by Ultravox, Pseudo Echo and Duran Duran with the old extended mixes on. I would agree that most of Disc B is superior anyway, as most of the B-Sides were excellent songs in their own right. I can't comment on any of the later one apart from Pictures Of Bernadette as I haven't managed to get into that laid back organic style yet (although I'm now listening to Colour Of Spring a lot - so maybe this hope for me yet!!). |
| Name: Jonas Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-05-26 10:33:40 Comments: I seem to have a very big problem: I can't seem to find Heligoland or the Brown/Allinson cd, if anyone can help me please e-mail. And what about Talking Colours, is it going back in print or what... I read the part where you discussed that Myrrhman and Runeii where puns of Mirror Man and Renée, and I think you're right, that have never stroke my mind before. And last I just want to say that I think Another Word is better than Talk Talk, not that I like it very much... that's all for now, if someone can help me, or just want to write something funny, feel free to e-mail me at Kamp@city.dk. |
| Name: Jonas Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-05-25 09:43:10 Comments: I must also, that I am dissapointed about disc 1 on "Asides..." and I rarely listen to it. But disc two is superb, and so is the inlay, great work EMI, except the mirroded front cover, "Another world" and so on. |
| Name: Laurent
Dalmasso Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: France Time: 1998-05-25 09:41:42 Comments: RE: Ronen and Stephane. Are also missing in Asides-Besides -and that's a pity - It's my life US mix which appears inter alia on the US release EMI V7821-1/2 and the Such a shame US Mix or Extended (depending on releases)that you can find on the German release EMI 1CK062 2002776. Of course, I am talking about remix released during 1984-1986. Not History revisited period. Copies of these releases can be found on my trade/sale list I have posted last Thursday on this site. Stephane, I think I have a copy of Brendan discography at home. I will send it to you if I can find it. All the best. |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-24 19:35:10 Comments: re: Stephane. Well, except of the tracks you've mentioned, other tracks missing are "Living in Another World (US Mix)" taken from 12EMIX5551, edits of "Spirit of Eden" tracks - "The Rainbow", "Desire" from the US promo 12", and that's about all that I'm aware of... Till next time! Ronen Preisler |
| Name: Stephane Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Canada Time: 1998-05-24 17:09:46 Comments: Does anyone happen to have a copy of the Talk Talk discography from the dead Australian Talk Talk homepage run by Brendan Jones? I'm trying to figure out what stuff didn't find its way on Asides Besides. I know one remix of "Life's What's You Make It" is missing. And an early extended version of "It's So Serious". And the b-sides from the "Laughing Stock" box of singles. Please reply to daigles@ere.umontreal.ca if you still have a copy of that discography. thanks,Stephane |
| Name: Ian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-24 15:37:36 Comments: re: R Baldridge. Who said that none of TT's displeasure was aimed at the content of History Revisited? Lack of consent aside, I always understood the mediocrity of the mix's to be one of the main reasons given for the band wanting to sue EMI. However, it's true that disk 'A' of Asides Besides is largely superfluous. My mate Martin was going to throw it away. (He didn't because the Harris/Webb remix came on just in time.) |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-24 14:10:13 Comments: Re: Dag. Dif Juz are fantastic. I've only heard a single track with them "No Motion" which appears on the fabulous compilation "Lonely Is An Eyesore" from 4AD from 1987 or so. It also includes great contributions not released elsewhere from This Mortal Coil, Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins etc. I know Dif Juz made an album around the same time but I've never heard it. Is it worth buying? Is all their music instrumental? Are they still around? You refer to Mark's new album as "Mountains Of the Moon" which makes me a little confused. Was it released under that name in Poland? |
| Name: Dag Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Poland Time: 1998-05-24 13:16:13 Comments: I'm really happy about this page. I've been listening to Laughing Stock and Mountains of the Moon not knowing much about Mark Hollis and Talk Talk. It's the best music I've ever heard in my life. It's as if Hollis was talking stright to me. I also listen to jazz. One of my favourit group is Dif Juz. |
| Name: scott
struik Website: talk talk unofficial homepage Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-05-24 07:11:47 Comments: hollis played guitar on 'it's my life' during the '84 tour. that's the only time i know of... |
| Name: R.
Baldridge Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: New York Time: 1998-05-23 18:09:24 Comments: I must admit that I am a bit disappointed at ASIDES BESIDES. Here in the states, this is a pretty expensive little item, and, with all the hullabaloo regarding History Revisited, I cannot understand why we needed the ASIDES disc at all. Granted, much of the flap over the earlier EMI release arose from the dubious nature of its creation. Still I think it is a bit dishonest to claim that none of Talk Talk's displeasure with History Revisited targeted the second rate nature of its content. Is Asides really any different? In any event, it is nice to have access to the later B-Sides -- particulalry John Cope. On another note, there once existed a promo cassette for The Spirit of Eden that EMI distributed to record stores. It was called something like Six Ways to the Spirit of Eden. I'm not quite sure. It contained consumer friendly edits of the Eden tracks to be played in record stores. (The Eden Edit on BESIDES was a part of that cassette). At the time, in the States at least, there was a real attempt to market The Spirit of Eden. I can remember the posters on the Drag in Austin, Texas challenging the putative consumer to "Listen to the Music". They were billing it as a sort of art-rock for the late 80's. I assume the cassette was a part of this same push. Does anybody know where this cassette is? Is it available? |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-22 23:35:57 Comments: I just watched a video from the Colour Of Spring tour and noticed that Hollis didn't play the guitar on any of the songs. All guitarplaying was done by David Rhodes. It was just like when I watched them in Copenhagen in '86 except that he went down kneeling during the long instrumental passages in Copenhagen - he didn't do that on the video. I even think it was the same songs they played. However on the "Talking Colours" sleeve there's a picture from a concert where Hollis plays his Ibanez guitar. Have any of you seen Hollis play guitar live and if so on which tracks? |
| Name: Laurent
Dalmasso Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: France Time: 1998-05-21 16:13:16 Comments: Hi again. Before advertising my trade /sale list in other newsgroups, I would like to share it with all the persons who participate in the Within Without discussion group. All the items listed below are extra copies from my Talk Talk personal collection. Priority is given to trades (no tape trades). If you are interested, please e-mail me. Thanks to Henrik for his kind permission. Bye **CD5** : 1· Living in another world (’91 edit) / Mendelsohn remix / Live UK EMI CDR 6282 -- 2· Ascension Day / 5.09 (from the Laughing Stock 3 CDs Box) UK Verve Polydor 867931 2 TALK D3 -- 3· 3 CDs Laughing Stock Gatefold set (After the flood / Myrrhman - New Grass / Stump - Ascension day / 5.09) French. Rare Limited Edition. -- 4· Heligoland, Tim Friese Greene -- **7 inches**: 1· Today / It’s so serious UK EMI 5314 -- 2· Talk Talk (Version) / Mirror Man UK EMIP 5352 Picture Disc -- 3· Such a shame / Again a game…again UK EMI D 5433 + UK EMI PSR 467 Double pack + poster. Rare -- 4· Such a shame / Dum dum girl UK EMI R 6276 -- 5· Life’s what you make it / It’s getting late in the evening UK EMI 5540 Gatefold Sleeve -- 6· It’s my life / Does Caroline know FRA EMI 2000037 -- 7· Tomorrow started / My foolish friend NET EMI 006-2003737 First pressing. Black sleeve issue. Rare -- **12 inches**: 1· Such a shame (US mix) / It’s my life (US mix) GER EMI 1CK 062 2002776 -- 2· Such a shame (US mix) / It’s my life (US mix) French. Same picture sleeve as above but different mix of It’s my life. -- 3· Such a shame (US mix) / Such a shame (UK mix) White label promo. -- 4· Such a shame (Extended mix) / Single version / Dub Mix US EMI SPRO 9155 -- 5· Such a shame (Extended Mix) / Call in the night boy US Promo. -- 6· Such a shame (12’’ Mix) / Such a shame / Again, a game, again UK 12 EMI 5433, -- 7· Such a shame (12’’ Mix) / Such a shame / Again, a game, again GER EMI 1CK 062 2000956 (same as UK) -- 8· Another Word / Candy Germany. Rare. -- 9· Life’s what you make it (BBG remix) / Life’s what you make it / Tomorrow started (live) UK EMI 12R 6264 -- 10· Talk Talk (Long Version) / ? / Talk Talk UK 12 EMI 5352 -- 11· Give it up / Pictures of Bernadette (Dance mix) / Pictures of Bernadette FRA EMI 1567576 -- 12· Give it up (Edited version) / Give it up US promo. -- 13· Living in another world (Curious World Dub Mix) / Living in ... (Edit) / Talk Talk (Gary Miller remix) / Living in .. (Mendelsohn remix) / Living in... (Live) US promo. -- 14· Living in another world (Four to the floor remix) / Living in... (Mendelsohn remix) UK EMI 12RS 6282 + J. Marsh Bonus Print -- 15· The Rainbow (edit) / Eden (edit) / Desire (edit) / I believe in you. Same tracks on B side. US EMI SPRO 04172 -- 16· I believe in you / John Cope / Eden (edited version) FRA EMI 20 2896 6 -- 17· It’s my life (US mix) / Tomorrow started (live) / My foolish friend (live) Germany. Rare. -- 18· It’s my mix (Why is it so hard/Talk Talk/My foolish friend/It’s my life/Such a shame/Dum dum girl) Italy -- 19· Talk Talk / It’s so serious / Today / Candy US EMI DLP - 19001 -- **Poster**: · Colour of Spring US promo poster |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-05-20 20:02:41 Comments: Thinking about it, I also remember a friend of mine having a video copy of a live TT performance from 'The Tube' from the 'Colour Of Spring' period. I think they did 'Living In Another World'. Horrifyingly enough, one of his drunken housemates taped an episode of 'The Power Hour' (now defunct UK metal show) over the top of it and has never been forgiven..... I'd love to see it again if anyone's got it. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-20 19:50:22 Comments: I saw Talk Talk on Mike Reid's Saturday Superstore in about April '86 performing 'Life's What You Make It'. I remember it vividly because it made me decide to go and see them at Birmingham Odeon the following month. Thanks Mike! |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-20 19:39:29 Comments: I really like the video version of "Life's what you make it", too. The ending of the video is so nice, as the music slowly fades and all that remains is the percussion and the background synth... Does this version appear anywhere on vinyl or cd ? I was disappointed not to find this version on "Natural History Videos". I can only see it from time to time on MTV or VH1. Any help or comments will be much appreciated. |
| Name: Erik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dublin Time: 1998-05-20 17:40:46 Comments: I've noticed Mark turning a touch green towards the end of living in another world also. The video freezes and makes it look like Mark is about to be sick !. The pressures of stardom . Does anyone have any information on TV appearances of TT. I recall them performing Today and Talk Talk on Top of the Pops. I remember seeing the video for 'Lifes what you make it' on the same program, but I never saw them on anything else. I know they're kind of publicity shy, but back in the early days they must've made some appearances. Any memories anyone ? |
| Name: Jake Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bristol, U.K. Time: 1998-05-20 13:34:54 Comments: I have a few points to make about the Natural History video. Does anyone know the locations used in some of the videos, e.g. the mining town for My Foolish Friend or the zoo in It's My Life? What is the reasoning behind giving the *exact* place and time of filming for Dum Dum Girl? Am I the only one who thinks that Mark looks like he's really suffering towards the end of Living in Another World after hanging upside for so long? And finally, I've seen a version of the Life's What You Make It video on VH-1 in the UK that seems to carry on for just a few seconds longer than the Natural History version, with the percussion sounds continuing right until the end (different to the album version). |
| Name: Eric Alper Website: North By Northeast Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Toronto Time: 1998-05-20 07:15:24 Comments: Weirdly enough, I do promo for one of the companies that Dave Marsden works at as well, and I, too, saw the "Life's What You Make IT" video on Toronto Rocks. I don't know many people who sit and actually listen to music these days, it's usually in the background or they may not take music as seriously anymore - but I don't think I have ever waited for a CD as much as the Mark Hollis debut. I still play It's My Mix in the car every week (shoot me now, I know)...It's not only to be a cool 80s soundtrack to the songs I grew up with, but strange enough that it's still a secret band for those in the know..They're underdogs, and as much as I hate to say it, if the Mark Hollis CD somehow does make TT all wealthy an huge all over again, I'll probably feel like how the REM/Murmur fans felt when Green came out.... :) |
| Name: Ian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-19 14:14:32 Comments: re: Si W. From what I know, the band objected thoroughly to the concept of the remix's album on the grounds that they had no control over it at all. As this totally ruled out the band's artistic input, I can only imagine that Hollis etc. would have been hopping mad about the whole thing. I know that Keith Aspden who manages them was once quoted as saying that 'History Re-invented' would have been a better title for the album, which doesn't display an awful lot of affection for it from the TT camp. The fact that TFG is credited as producer is more to do with the way all music is legally published. If a track is remixed and released under the name of the original artist, then the producer of the original track must still be credited, even if he has no part in remixing it. This is because producers collect royalties (from sales and public performances of the track i.e radio,T.V. etc.) on records as well as songwriters, regardless of whether they are released in a different mix or arrangement. Similarly, you'll still see the songwriter credits (Hollis and Freise Greene in this case) - no different, just a different portion of the track's overall royalties. The remixer will usually charge a flat fee and if he's lucky, he'll get a couple of royalty percentages on the remixed track although this is rare. Basically EMI were able to release the album without the permission of the band, but the band and producer can still collect royalties on these recordings. A classic case of a record company flexing its muscles before a seemingly powerless band who had annoyed them for committing so-called 'commercial suicide' with Spirit Of Eden (no obvious singles, no tour etc.) The fact that EMI lost the subsequent court case was a bit of a legal milestone apparently. As to whether the band like the remix's, I would hazard an educated guess at 'no'! It's a complex area but I hope this will clear things up......... |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-05-19 13:40:56 Comments: When Mark was doing interviews to promote Laughing Stock, he seemed particularly annoyed about History Revisited. He actually said "I've never heard it, and I never want to" which suggests that the main problem was simply the idea of his work being remixed without his consent. As for Tim Friese-Greene's credit on the album, I think that is simply because Tim had originally produced most of the tracks. I'm pretty sure he never made any extra input to the album. So, does anyone have any opinions on AV1 yet ? I've played it a few times and the opening tracks remind me in some way of '5:09', and some parts of 'Herd Of Instinct'. Mark's piano contribution is very very good. A 15-minute minimalist piece, which is both calm and dramatic at different times. No vocals, but it is a very good album - well worth tracking down ! |
| Name: Si_W Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Chippenham, Wilts Time: 1998-05-19 12:39:14 Comments: Thanks for the reply Paul, I've got another question from that though that I hope you can shed some light on. Was it the concept of the album TT objected to, or just the results? The reason I ask this is that the booklet (if you can call it that) credits Tim F-G for the production of the album, and I always understood that he was an integral part of TT. Apologies for labouring the point. |
| Name: Meistro Website: The Progressive Underground radio show Referred by: NewsGroups From: Champlain Valley of Vermont Time: 1998-05-19 02:24:58 Comments: Talk Talk is one of the few early 80's new wave bands I listened to and followed through the ensuing years. As a radio DJ and musicologist, I've listened to a lot of music, and Talk Talk/Orang/etc... will always be an extended family of artists I have respect for. An album like "Spirit of Eden" is quite a rare work of reflective beauty in an otherwise mostly mundane music industry. |
| Name: Erik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dublin Time: 1998-05-18 17:29:02 Comments: Does anyone know if promo videos were made for 'mirror man' and 'i don't believe in you'. Both were released as singles in the UK but neither appeared on Natural History (CD or Video) ?. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, UK Time: 1998-05-18 16:44:07 Comments: Just to clear up a couple of points... AV1 and 'Mark Hollis' are two completely seperate CD's. 'Mark Hollis' is Mark Hollis's first solo release, and AV1 is a 'project' between Hollis (aka Cope), Phill Brown, Dave Allinson, Mark Feltham and others. And what's more, I got my copy this morning ! If anyone else is having difficulty tracking down AV1, I can recommend Voiceprint Records in the UK. Their mail order department can be reached on 0191 584 2120. Another point...regarding History Revisited - the main problem that Mark Hollis and the others had with this release was that EMI commisioned the entire album without getting the permission of anyone involved with the band. The (brilliant) mix of 'Happiness' by Webb & Harris was the only mix that had the blessing of Talk Talk - the rest were commissioned by EMI, and released depite the band threatening legal action. Since then, Talk Talk took the case to court, and after it became clear that Talk Talk were within their rights, EMI backed down, and deleted the album. It can still be found in 2nd hand stores etc. One final thing - does anyone know where I can get hold of the 12" release of "Life's What You Make It" featuring a 'dance mix' ? It's the only UK release I'm still searching for ! Send me an email if you have any ideas, please :) |
| Name: Chris Dodd Website: Purple Pudding Place Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Chattanooga, TN USA Time: 1998-05-18 02:44:56 Comments: Hello all, So glad to have found a place for all Mark Hollis/Talk Talk fans. I knew there were a few in my hometown, but thought I was in a world-wide minority-but in a way we are. But isn't it a great place to be. I, too, can't pinpoint a single song, rather sto savour the mood and emotion of an entire piece, as I feel each album is. I am a music manager for a store here in the US and would like to help anyone obtain anything US they might be having a hard time finding. I'm looking for the Italian video that was shot of Talk Talk. A good hi-fi or stereo copy would be great. I have a copy of the Italianonly "It's My Mix" and plan to put it on CD for those who would like a copy. Hope to hear from anyone soon. |
| Name: Si_W Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Chippenham, Wilts, UK Time: 1998-05-17 22:59:43 Comments: I've just listened to History Revisited for the first time in ages, and got to thinking about something I heard a bout this album. I seem to remember that there was legal action taken by Talk Talk over this album. Why did TT take this step when there is a mix of Happiness Is Easy by Paul Webb and Lee Harris on it? Was it nicked from them or something? I have to admit, I quite like History Revisited now - still not as good as their early stuff though (sorry, guys.....). |
| Name: dave
Marsden Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Toronto Canada Time: 1998-05-17 04:07:49 Comments: Just read Brad Stanford's entry....I thought that was really cool. "It's my life" first caught my attention in September 1986--I was recording it off a radio station, mistaking it for another song I was interested in at the time. Earlier in the day (and I'm not making this up), I had seen "Life's What You Make It" on "Toronto Rocks" (remember John Major, fellow Canadians??) and thinking, WHO THE HELL IS THAT?? One weird (if not appealing) musical style and strange..or radical(???) presence... I said aloud, 'There goes the neighbourhood'. Hell, I was only fifteen then. Switch to present day. Two days ago, I found the new disc by Hollis downtown(it's simply called 'Mark Hollis' up here--not AV-1.) My girlfriend can't understand how somebody could be so excited about a musician. Funny how I find myself so deep in love with this guy. |
| Name: Ian Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: u.k. Time: 1998-05-16 22:27:58 Comments: Crawford - I think the technical term is "off their heads" |
| Name: Crawford Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Scotland Time: 1998-05-15 22:53:33 Comments: Does anyone know what the hell's going on during the alternative video take of Dum-Dum Girl? "I love my auntie June!" God knows what people not familiar with london parlance make of it! |
| Name: Brad
Stanford Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Grand Prairie, Texas, USA Time: 1998-05-15 11:06:31 Comments: When I was a kid, I was really impressed with the song It's My Life, so I went out and bought the single - that's right, the 45. As most of you know, it was backed with "Again, A Game . . . Again" - an incredible song in it's own right. But I liked It's My Life so much that it was a full year before I even flipped the record over! That single led to me backtracking to find older Talk Talk albums, and then, like most of you, following the Band (more specifically, Mark Hollis' work) until this very day. I am very thankful for all of those who work hard in providing these informative web pages. I had no idea that there were so many people around the world who were totally sold on the work of Talk Talk/Mark Hollis! So I'm not crazy after all! I don't have a favorite album, because each album (yes, even The Party's Over) seems like a grand individual accomplishment, worthy of eartime. I do get cravings for different albums at different times, but rarely will a craving be for a single song - more like a single experience. I have to agree with the raving over Laughing Stock, though. What an incredible soundscape of emotion! So whatever happened to my single of It's My Life? I'm looking at it right now. It's in my hot little hands. If any of you collectors want it, I'm OK to part with it, but I will need a copy of the Natural History Video to fill the void. (In 1991 I was in the store with the video in my hands, and I put it back down because I didn't "need" it - it was a luxury at the time. I came back to find it gone, and after waiting 6 weeks on a backordered one, I found out that it was out of print! I have regretted that for a long time!) If you're interested, I can be reached at this address: servantofgod12@juno.com. If you have a copy of the video, but aren't willing to part with it, maybe we can still work something out! |
| Name: James Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-15 00:59:12 Comments: On the subject of Tim FG. I'm very fond of the production he brought to Catherine Wheel's "Ferment" (1st LP)....Rob Dickinson cited the last two TT albums as major influences on the last CW disc "Adam and Eve" (on which Tim FG offers some keyboard parts)...although I can't say that A&E hits the same nerves as TT. |
| Name: Erik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dublin Time: 1998-05-14 17:43:06 Comments: Whilst we're on the subject of recommended listening for TT fans, what about David Sylvian. I know a lot of you probably listen to him already, but for those who don't I highly recommend his music. To me, David Sylvian is the only musician who can come close to the levels of brillance achieved by Talk Talk and Mark Hollis. The second half of his debut LP 'Brilliant trees' is stunning. Featuring the unusual rhythms and structures and general disregard for convention that became the hallmark of late Talk Talk. Last night I was listening to 'Flux & Mutability', his 1989 collaboration with Holger Czukay. It's two dream-like instrumental pieces lasting about 20 minutes. I'm hoping that marks piece on AV1 will be similar. Also on the subject of TF Greene, I also know that he produced early 80's double barrelled popsters 'Cava Cava', and their rather cheesy debut 'Wheres Romeo?'. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-05-13 17:31:36 Comments: I don't know if anyone has seen this already, but there is a brilliant review of "Mark Hollis " at the following : www.furia.com/twas/twas0163.html - well worth seeing ! Also, I ordered my copy of AV1 today - has anyone actually managed to get their hands on a copy yet ?? |
| Name: Steen
Lindgaard Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Aalborg-Denmark Time: 1998-05-12 23:00:11 Comments: I am a pianoplayer studying at The Musicacademy of Northjutland-Denmark. Right now I am working hard on a written project on TT/Hollis. I have made some rather intensive musictheoretical analysis on some of the works, that might be interesting to some of you guys. By the way, -has anabody figured out who this character,"Jimmy Finn" (The Rainbow) is???. If anybody has some sort of lyrical analysis in the text-works i would like to hear from you. Henrik!!!: I've just read one of your earlyer contributions to this discussionforum concerning Coleman.Check out a record, which i think is called,"The shape of Jazz to come". To anyone who's being moved by the works of Hollis, I would like to recommend you listening to a pianowork by "Claude Debussy" called "La cathédralle engloutie" (The sunken cathedral, or something..) You might as well find yourself diggin' on the works of Eric Satie.And the giant...John Coltrane,two recordings in particular:"Impressions" from 1963 and "Crescent" from 1964.-Weird and wonderful music. By the way has anybody mentioned "Tindersticks"???-I find a lot of parallels to Talk Talk on their album from 1997 "Curtains" Henrik please E-mail me your adress, and I will send you my written project (-it's in danish). Thanks a lot for the great work you've done on the WithinWithout page.It's been a great help. And dont forget: -Don't hesitate it Celebrate it!!! Yours sincerely Steen Lindgaard-Aalborg Denmark |
| Name: Neil Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Cardiff Time: 1998-05-12 13:11:00 Comments: Robin- drop me an email, I have something that may well be of interest to you. |
| Name: Steve Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Boston, Ma, USA Time: 1998-05-11 20:22:37 Comments: I am on my way to purchase AV1. The cd is availlable in the Boston area at Newburry Comics in Newton, Mass. Here is the situation with that cd...the name has been changed from Hollis/Allinson/Brown to Allinson/Brown (With Hollis apparently being ommited). However, if you look closely-there is a fifteen minute Piano instrumental by.........John Cope (Hollis)! For the benefit of those of you who do not know, John Cope is a Talk Talk B-side from Spirit Of Eden and Asides Besides.By the way, from what I understand, Hollis only appears on that one track and offers no vocals.... Steve |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-10 20:29:25 Comments: Robin - Try to go to the Sound Gallery ;-) |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-10 19:16:21 Comments: We regularly get to discussing Mark Hollis' life & works but does anyone know anything more about Tim Freise Greene? All I know is that he has produced acts as diverse as the Catherine Wheel, Blue Zoo, Stiff Little Fingers and perhaps most contraversially, Tight Fit (yes, 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' ones) I've always wanted to know more about him because he seems like a genius to me. Any ideas? |
| Name: James Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-09 18:13:04 Comments: With regards to the latest discussion on comparing the early and late TT/Hollis material: I think there's a question of context that has to be asked before evaluating either pole of the material. I'm certainly more attached to the later works ( and I think it is the later work that defines them as being important), but it's the progress from "Mirror Man" to "Myhrrman" that is what's so fascinating, if not difficult to belive that it is indeed the same band (with and without Tim F-G of course). A paralell; could anyone have ever pictured the Beatles recording a piece like "Revolution No. 9" after "Love Me Do" was released? When considering Talk Talk's work in such a broad context, it's an almost frightening reminder that music that seems unremarkable, forgettable, or even insipid today might be just the first steps and foreshadowings of something bigger and more profound.. ..just a thought. -j |
| Name: mark Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-09 18:12:16 Comments: mark hollis does not seem to be on the allinson/brown album (AV1) :( |
| Name: scott
struik Website: talk talk unofficial home page Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-05-07 00:31:26 Comments: Contrary to rumour: AV1 has just been released! As it stands now, it is only available as a UK import on the Resurgence label. Price: $24.99 or so....... |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-05-06 15:58:58 Comments: I've often wondered what some of the early tracks would sound like if they were recorded using the more recent recording methods that Mark has used. I know this would never happen, as Mark has always pointed out how much he hates the idea of recreating sounds. I've got no problem at all with the early Talk Talk albums - if anything, they serve to show how the band gradually developed in terms of ideas and direction. And of course, if it wasn't for the success of the first 3 albums, Spirit Of Eden would never have happened. |
| Name: Kevin
McCormick Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bloomington, Indiana Time: 1998-05-05 14:55:28 Comments: In reference to "Another Word," note that it is the only Talk Talk song which does not bear Hollis' name as an author. As talented as Paul Webb is as a bassist (I think this is clearest on the It's My Life album, particularly the title track), he is not a lyricist by any means. As important as the music is to the overall feel of a Talk Talk song, it is the lyrics that give it direction, shape, and dynamic reason. "Desire" might still be a great song without the lyrics, but it wouldn't be nearly as powerful and it's form really wouldn't make a lot of sense. It's interesting to note that Hollis felt that "Spirit of Eden" was the culmination of what he had been trying to do all along. I wonder what "Candy" and "The Party's Over" would have sounded like without the synths. |
| Name: Erik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dublin Time: 1998-05-05 13:53:05 Comments: I agree with the majority of visitors to this website that the last three TT lp's are the best. However, both the Partys Over and It's my Life both contain great tracks but are let down by a number of weak tracks which isn't an accusation I could place on the last 3 albums. The songs 'Today', 'Talk Talk' and 'Candy' are terrific examples of 1982 electro-pop and stand up far better than any Duran or Spandau release from the same era. But I can't defend the euro-disco 'Another Word'. I still can't believe it's a TT song !. It's my life is a far better album which doesn't have any 'bad' tracks, just a few mediocre ones (Call in the night boy, Does Caroline Know). The unusual thing is that nearly all the material on this album was so much better when performed live. So there, I like the first two albums. Fans of 'another word', please don't mail me with abuse, the above is just my opinion. |
| Name: Rob E. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-05 12:30:25 Comments: re:Chris. Don't get me wrong! I definitely don't think 'It's My Life' is a stinker at all. The title track itself and 'Renee' make it a vastly more confident and ambitious project than their debut, but it still doesn't reveal the true talent of the band (and don't forget the production team) as well as their subsequent albums do. Only after Tim Freise-Greene, Phill Brown, Mark Feltham, Robbie Macintosh et al became fully integrated into band did they begin to create the devastating and original music that (nearly) all the contributors to this page seem to love. Just look at the poll results. Would you have waited 7 years for a Mark Hollis solo album if Talk Talk had not done anything after 'It's My Life'? It's not embarrasment that I feel towards 'The Party's Over' because not many bands make a stunning debut. I just don't think it's very good. |
| Name: Tim Dunn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: W.Mids Time: 1998-05-05 12:18:40 Comments: Hi there, I've been waiting for this month's pay, to go out and get Asides..., which is great, but I'm wondering who is responsible for the rather amusing captions in the booklet, particularly the one on that charming 'Jackie' poster of Paul Webb. Any ideas? |
| Name: Chris Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-05-05 00:25:20 Comments: Having just found this site for the first time, it makes me a very happy man to find so many Talk Talk fans around the world. Interesting that people seem to think that the first two albums were, to quote, "stinkers". "Have You Heard The News" and "Renee" have to be two of their most moving songs. Out of interest, I first got into Talk Talk when I saw them live supporting Duran Duran in Birmingham in 1981 (or was it 1982?); I truly am a child of the 80s... |
| Name: Rob E. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: U.K. Time: 1998-05-03 17:15:02 Comments: And no one blames you for it Si! Speaking also as a product of the 80's, I can only say that I honestly don't think that there's any snobbery involved regarding the first 2 TT albums. They simply aren't as good as the others. Really, it's true! I mean it's not like there aren't any good songs on 'It's My Life', indeed some of my favourite tracks are on that one, but as an album it's just not as good as the subsequent ones. And 'The Party's Over'? Painful though it is to admit, as it was the song 'Talk Talk' that got me into them in the first place, you can only say that there are all the traits of 'not-a-classic-album-in-any-sense-of-the-term-whatsoever' written all over it. (The term 'Stinker' comes to mind, but then that's only my opinion and it's hard for a young band to get a deal.....) So anyway, the first 2 TT albums are 'not as good as the others'. I'm sorry, I can't see it any other way. |
| Name: Si_W Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: UK Time: 1998-05-03 11:23:14 Comments: While browsing through this page, I come away with the distinct impression that the first two albums are frowned upon, with The Colour Of Spring rating with most as the start of Talk Talks valid musical career. Unfortunately, for me as a stranger in a strange land, the opposite is true. I absolutely love The Partys Over and Its My Life. I quite like The Colour Of Spring but can't listen to anything afterwards. The recent Asides Besides release has made me appreciate them even more, although I can't listen to the last few B-sides. Although I can't bear to listen to the stuff you all love, think about this: without the early releases you seem to find embaressing you wouldn't have the music you love now. It's not my fault I'm a child of the 80's. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-05-02 11:40:13 Comments: I've decided (by request) to house the first Mark Hollis/Talk Talk internet convention ever - Or let's keep it a little less pretentious: The first Within Without chatroom gathering will take place on Saturday the 9th of May, 1998 at 21:00 hours CET (Denmark and most countries in Western Europe ) which means 8 p.m. in U.K., 3 p.m. in New York, 2 p.m. in Chicago, 12 midday in Los Angeles, 22:00 in Eastern Europe/Israel and 5 a.m. (Sunday morning) in Sydney. I hope to meet many of you who's visited the website and participated in the discussions on the bulletin board. BE THERE! |
| Name: Stuart
Macdonald Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Glasgow Time: 1998-05-01 23:45:39 Comments: Every album, every track, less and less ... Time passes, so does the illusion It is so obviously more. This takes it all away. Lights off, no-one around No-one does it like Hollis. What about the Art work. James Marsh contributes to the whole effect. If anyone knows where to get some of his work please let me know. It just gets better and better and better ... |
| Name: R.
Baldridge Website: Referred by: Other search engine From: New York Time: 1998-05-01 22:37:46 Comments: As I did with the final three TT albums, I have listened to the new Mark Hollis release so many times that it has become a permanent addition to the aural topography of my mind. MH defies convention, yet again making a gift of poetry and music that seems to insinuate itself from the silence surrounding it. Simultaneously patient and urgent, Mark Hollis (the album) ranks with, well, Sprit of Eden and Laughing Stock. Really that is no small feat. Lamentably, MH is, as yet, available in the US only as an import. Within this web site, there are inidications of yet another MH album -- this one on "Voiceprint". Someone please keep me posted as to its availability. I doubt it will be so easy to locate here as the Polydor release. |
| Name: Stefan Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Berlin Time: 1998-04-30 23:19:42 Comments: Hi everybody, a few days ago Mark Hollis was featured in a German radio program Quite nice for me to hear him talk, although most of what he said I had already read in interviews. One point he made though was new to me and very interesting. He talked about how he has to think of music all the time, in his way to the studio, in the studio, on his way home and even in most of his dreams. His words:"It never stops". Music gives him no peace, and there is a constant search for sounds. I personally feel this `haunting`aspect is a dominant feature in many TT songs. What you hear is just kind of a momentary realisation of an ongoing process that never stops, and I find it ever so amazing that in his constant struggle Hollis touches spheres of musical expression where an almost spiritual dimension comes in (best example: I believe in you). I hope I can communicate what I mean (in fact I am struggling with my English - sorry if this is bad reading!) Another thing: I recently bought an EP with two live tracks (Tomorrow started and My foolish friend) and got an impression of what a damn great live band TT must have been. Anyone trading live material is welcome to contact me privately. A friend of mine claims to have seen a TT appearance in German TV (WDR Rockpalast) sometime in the eighties. Can anyone confirm this? Thank you Henrik for this great site! |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sheffeld Time: 1998-04-30 12:19:05 Comments: Anybody who wants to hear more AR Kane might do well to check through their old 7 inch's for the 1987 classic 'Pump up the Volume' by MARRS which was jointly composed by them, house DJ CJ Macintosh and 4AD label-mates Colourbox. The b side 'Anatina' might as well be one of their own tracks and is one of the best things they ever did. The a side still sounds amazing as well........ P.S. Hope you are all happy with 'Asides Besides'. |
| Name: James
Bambury Website: Referred by: Word of Mouth From: Canada Time: 1998-04-30 05:21:49 Comments: Regarding the earlier posting about AR Kane; I haven't listened to them extensively, although I find that "Deep Blue Breath" (especially a remix available on the VOLUME compilations) is certainly cut from the same cloth as "Happiness is Easy" (although it could be just that the songs share a similar backbeat and both use a children's chorus)... and there is certainly a case to be made for the Nick Drake influence(?) /similarity to the MH album (I'd be curious to know what Hollis thinks of Drake's "Fruit Tree"). Can anyone identify for me the source of the "voices" that are buired quite low in the "mix" of A Life (the ones that start after Hollis has finished singing the verses and the instremental section of the song begins)? just curious. once again, it's nice not to feel so isolated, peace -jb |
| Name: Crawford Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: scotland Time: 1998-04-29 20:48:13 Comments: Anyone interested in the intricate knotwork of the later TT/MH releases (who isn't) could do a lot worse than check out the work of a now sadly deceased london band called Bark Psychosis, they released two albums 'Hex' and 'Independency' (the latter being a singles collection), it's really astounding music and clearly influenced by TT, it ranges from hazy, repeating, faraway ambience to diamond sharp piano led songs. Their cd's are still available from Third Stone records, They really were a special band, no amount of adjectives could do them justice!! |
| Name: Indraneel Datta Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London Time: 1998-04-29 16:42:42 Comments: I'm interested to hear that "Mark Hollis" has sold well: I must admit that on first listen it was more easily accessible than the last two Talk Talk albums would be to most ears. "Westward Bound" is probably my favourite track atm. Some suggested listening: Gastr del Sol: I'm only aware of two albums, this year's "Camoufleur" and last year's "Upgrade and Afterlife". The last track of the latter, in particular prefigures some of what MH does on "Mark Hollis" by blending folk and contemporary classical forms. AR Kane: two diffcult to find albums from the late 80s/early 90s, "69" and "I". Both of these should appeal to anybody that could get into the more abstract passages of "Laughing Stock" The influence of Miles Davis and Can on MH is well documented. Is it just me, or can other people hear Weather Report, John Martyn and (on "Mark Hollis") even Nick Drake in there |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-04-29 13:07:39 Comments: The saga over Mark's 2nd solo release continues !... Badlands gave me some more info today. As far as they know, the CD will be released in June, and the label is Voiceprint, based in north-east England. I managed to find a phone no. for Voiceprint, and they were very helpful also. They told me the album was due for release months ago, but Mark has a contract for a few albums with Polydor, so Polydor weren't too happy about this album going out on another label. So, Voiceprint agreed to delay release of the album until Mark's first solo album had "run it's course", which presumably must be June. Voiceprint are keen to release the album as "Mark Hollis" has sold very well, apparently. Better than expected. So, that's the latest. Roll on June !.... |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sheffield UK Time: 1998-04-29 12:41:24 Comments: John Cope really is the best song ever you know. Unbelievable....... |
| Name: Thomas
Estrup Iversen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Odense, Denmark Time: 1998-04-27 20:50:57 Comments: Some reflections on the Asides Besides cover art: As well known Marsh always use animals in the pieces. From my point of interpretation I consider this goose (note it's not a gander!) to be the very picture of The human Being; man i.e. the goose has to stand very still and to tread cautiously on the brittle egg (that is the cultural world created by man himself) to avoid to crush it, which will cause the hanging of the goose - the fall of The human Being. Never kill the goose that lays the golden eggs...! |
| Name: Lisa Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Herning, Denmark Time: 1998-04-27 16:36:55 Comments: A few weeks ago I seriously thought I was the only Talk Talk-fan in this world... - of course Iīm not. It's just the impression that you get these days. Thank God for the internet. I AM NOT ALONE. The beauty still exists. Thank you for being out there to comfort me & fellow fans. Time it's time to go... |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-04-27 16:21:51 Comments: Hi ! I was just wondering if anyone could teach me the dance moves for the 'Pictures of Bernadette' Dance Mix ? :) |
| Name: Jonas Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Aarhus, Denmark Time: 1998-04-27 14:09:09 Comments: I bought "Asides..." last friday, and I've been listening to it almost all the time, especial the second disc. Well the album didn't let me down. The tracks are great, "For what it's worth" is one of the best TT tracks ever made. The front cover is proberly my favourite Marsh painting. Oh yeah my father has recently intruduced my to a group named Gryphon. I tried to listen to it and got a chok. Apart from TT/Hollis Gryphon is the best band ever. I sure can recommend them. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-04-27 09:21:11 Comments: Dear Muriel, It seems to me that the two O.Rang albums are quite easy to find ! I know a shop in Paris where you can order them (I think that even in every FNAC, you'll be able to do so). If you want the phone number of this shop, I suggest you send me an e-mail. Alors ā bientot ! |
| Name: muriel Website: within without Referred by: Alta Vista From: pau, france Time: 1998-04-26 18:03:49 Comments: Hi all, Just found T.T. Asides Besides album. My collection is complete. I feel happy now ! this one and M.Hollis solo album last month, we are lucky ! Hey, by the way, can somebody help me ?... I have tried to get O'Rang albums for ages... Even in the best French record store, nobody knows about this group ! Any idea ?... Or do I have to order abroad ? thanks in advance for your help... muriel |
| Name: Thomas
Estrup Iversen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Odense, Denmark Time: 1998-04-26 03:49:58 Comments: I'm a young man from Denmark who has been a great listener to Talk Talk since '85 - and I still am. Over the years Talk Talk have always been my favourite band, and I'm considering my natural ripening as very parallel to the advance of Talk Talk - and vice versa. Now I'm most up to tranquil tracks as It's Getting Late in the Evening, For What It's Worth, and the like - and of course the late albums and the solo project of Mark Hollis. Therefore I'm very glad to experience this instructive homepage and the participants of the Discussion Forum. For years I've been wondering who are - so far as they are not fictive persons only - respectively John Cope (in reference to the track of ditto title) and Jimmy Finn (in reference to The Rainbow) - non of them are into my encyclopaedias or the works of reference (philosophy, literature, etc.). If anyone knows anything about this subject, I would like to hear from you. Apart from this I follow the investigation of the comparison of the track names; does anyone else have other additions in this respect?! |
| Name: Jim
Everson Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-04-25 23:00:52 Comments: Yay! Asides Besides just showed up at the Virgin Megastore in San Francisco! Maybe I'm just picky, but I also noticed that the liner notes refer to the song Another Word as Another World! C'mon EMI, did you pay for the fancy liner notes by not hiring a proof reader? I do like the packaging otherwise. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-04-25 11:21:24 Comments: Well spotted, Jim! If you study the signature closely and compare it with the earlier covers you'll see that the signature has been mirrored as well. Congratulations EMI - you've mirrored a James Marsh painting once again. As a special service for you all I've flipped it back in the news section. I wonder if it's James Marsh's turn to sue EMI for altering his artwork without permission. ;-) |
| Name: Jim
Everson Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: San Francisco Time: 1998-04-25 02:47:50 Comments: Does it bother anyone else that the globe (egg?) on the cover of Asides Besides is reversed? After seeing the flipped cover of Spirit of Eden on the recently released remasters, I wonder if EMI hired the same printing press operator who doesn't know which side of a negative is UP. This web site is great. I check it every day. Will someone please post here if they find Asides Besides anywhere in the United States. Jim |
| Name: Laurent
Dalmasso Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: France Time: 1998-04-24 09:09:21 Comments: Hi to all Talk Talk fans ! Just to say that Kiss the Stone (KTS) is back with a new ownership based in Singapore. I contacted them concerning the Talking Colours bootleg and they told me that they expect to have the CD back in stock in approximately 3 weeks. The web address is www.kissthestone.com. Thousands thanks again to Henrik, Scott and Brendan. Salut ! |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-04-22 15:08:09 Comments: It's great to have Asides Besides available after so long - so many tracks on there which deserve to be available on CD - especially "It's Getting Late..." - a superb track. According to a friend of mine, VH-1 in the UK are planning a Talk Talk / Mark Hollis special to coincide with the release of Asides Besides - I don't know many details, except that an interview with Mark will be part of it - whether this is old or new, I'm not sure. I suggest that everyone in the UK should keep their eyes peeled for TV listings - and tell all of us when you spot anything ! |
| Name: Erik Threlfall Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Kilkenny, Ireland Time: 1998-04-21 18:00:39 Comments: Me Again. Someone's just told me how to use Hotmail so I now hopefully have an E Mail Address. It's 'erik24@hotmail.com'. |
| Name: Erik Threlfall Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Kilkenny, Ireland Time: 1998-04-21 17:42:32 Comments: Re:Michael Hurn in Stevenage. I have some Talk Talk live stuff that I will Happily copy for you in return for a copy of the B-Sides of the Laughing Stock Box Set. I have a 40 Minute video of the infamous 1986 concert. It was broadcast on UK Gold in January 1993 and is the same concert from which the Give It Up promo from Natural History - Videos was taken. The audio quality isn't Marvellous and will deteriorate further when copied but it is well worth it. I also have some live audio tracks from the flip side of various singles, the live stuff includes talk talk, Renee, Living in Another World, Lifes What you make it, Does Caroline Know and Dum Dum Girl. If you're interested just place a message on this noticeboard (I don't have an E-Mail Address Sorry) and I'll get back in touch. While I'm here I'd just like to say that I love Asides and Besides, thanks EMI. |
| Name: Kevin Mc. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bloomington, IN Time: 1998-04-21 14:26:41 Comments: Charles and Ronen: I think you are right that these titles are references to the earlier Talk Talk songs. I have to wonder what Hollis' reasons were for these references. Myrrhman seems to be, in addition to being a pun on Mirrorman, a reference to the king who presented myrrh to the Christ child at the stable. Myrrh was the fragrance used to perfume the bodies of the dead and is itself a foreshadowing of Christ's death. Given Hollis' interest in both Christ and death this seems a plausible explanation for the reference. As for Runeii, I think you are both right. It is a pun on Renee, but I think (since as far as I know it's not a word) there is a likelihood that the title is in fact, Rune ii or Rune #2. Among possible meanings for the word "rune" is "a song or a poem." However I must admit that the lyrics to Runeii have always confounded me and I find the song's placement on Laughing Stock to be strange, not musically but lyrically. |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-04-21 11:11:02 Comments: Ronen : Oh Shit ! You're very right Ronen ! I never saw it like that ! But effectively it could be a pun ! It surely is a pun ! damn ! how is it possible I didn't ever notice that ! That's a good point for you Ronen ! any other proposition anyway ? |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-04-21 10:24:22 Comments: Charles : I have always thought that the Myrrhman and Runeii titles were intended as a pun on older songs Mirror Man and Renee, Respectively. Am I the only one who feels this way? Ronen...(confused) |
| Name: Charles Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Paris Time: 1998-04-21 08:51:57 Comments: Lately I was wondering while i was listening to laughing stock and especially to the song runeii : if the song is entitled runeii, does it mean there is a runei somewhere ? Can we consider it as a lost track ? I'm sure that talk talk fans like you can answer ! |
| Name: michael
hurn Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Stevenage England Time: 1998-04-20 21:15:25 Comments: It's nice to know that there are still large numbers of Talk Talk/Mark Hollis fans around. Sorry I've taken so long to discover this site, but I'm glad I found it. I've just bought the Asides and Bsides CD; it was well worth the wait. Does anyone out there have any live TalkTalk stuff; audio or video. I'll pay your price. If anyone needs recordings from the Laughing stock box set, let me know. Nice to meet everyone. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sheffield, UK Time: 1998-04-20 10:58:30 Comments: 'Asides Besides' is COOL! 28 tracks and a booklet containing nearly all the single artwork and a couple of James Marsh illustrations I haven't seen before which were either for unreleased things or overseas issues. There's also some classic shots from 80's UK teen mags from the time of 'The Party's Over' guaranteed to cause you some mirth. (I especially like the one of Paul Webb from 'Jackie'.) Looks like EMI have finally got it right. Now, how about the live tracks/video?........ |
| Name: Molly Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Buffalo, NY Time: 1998-04-20 05:29:29 Comments: Hello, I've been a huge Talk Talk fan for about 14 years, when I first heard the wonderful song, "It's My Life". My favorite member of Talk Talk was Paul Webb, and my favorite song is "Such A Shame". I would love to hear from anybody who's into Talk Talk or Mark Hollis. |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sheffield, England Time: 1998-04-18 19:12:27 Comments: (continued after technical error! See earlier entry) ......5 or so albums. Yet when we were asked where you could get the b-side tracks, we'd have to say "Sorry, you can't. You could try the collection of boring remix's that no-one likes though...." That's why I envy any of you TT fans that have never heard these tracks before. I am excited enough about having a copy that doesn't go 'hssssss crackle hssssss' all the way through. So many things in this life tend to disappoint. This one won't. Enjoy |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sheffield, England Time: 1998-04-18 18:35:53 Comments: I've had to borrow the money to get 'Asides Besides' which I am off to get on Monday. I've had all of these tracks on a tape which my freind made for me about 6 years ago when he had completed his ceaseless hunt to buy everything that TT had done ever - both on CD and vinyl. For years we (and anyone else we seemed to play it to) marvelled at the genius of these tracks which together seemed to take on the guise of a 'missing' 6th studio album - not just a collection of dog eared b-sides as purveyed by lesser bands and their record co.'s. Yet you couldn't get any of them on CD except for 'John Cope', and who in their right mind would sell you their copy of that? (I've looking for that fucking single on CD for 7 years now.) Again and again we'd meet the response "Talk Talk? Weren't they that synth band from the 80's? You know - the one's in white suits?". One play of the 'Rarities Tape' later and EMI/Parlophone were normally richer to the tune of |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-04-17 19:58:34 Comments: Happy days are here again. It's almost to good to be true. After seven long years of waiting we're getting four Talk Talk related CDs in less than half a year. First Mark Hollis' magnificent album which easily fulfilled the gigantic expectations. Then Tim Friese-Greene's outstanding Heligoland-EP which showed that he was the sound architect beside Mark Hollis in the making of the most beautiful records ever made. Now all the Talk Talk b-sides in CD quality and later this spring another contribution from Mark Hollis. It's wonderful. I'd very much like to hear what others think of Tim's Heligoland EP. It's still available from F Sharp Productions and samples can be heard in the Sound Gallery. |
| Name: tim dunn Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: york Time: 1998-04-17 15:51:50 Comments: I also missed the grand vote on favourite songs. I think it might be 'Living In Another World', as I chose to transcribe the whole thing as part of my music degree, including THAT solo.... Also I love Candy, Ascension Day and I Believe In You, although it's impossible to really pick songs out, as every one is special - what is undeniable is that Mark has the most unerring sense of grand melody I've ever heard. |
| Name: scott
struik Website: talk talk unofficial homepage Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-04-17 01:36:48 Comments: Yikes! I've just gotten home and have received numerous emails from people in Ireland, England, the Netherlands, Germany, Iceland(!), and Italy - letting me know that Asides Besides is now being sold! No sign of this long awaited disc in the States yet.. |
| Name: Alan Dunne Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Ireland Time: 1998-04-16 20:05:50 Comments: Asides Besides has arrived in Ireland! The 28 track, double CD has been worth the wait. Gorgeous booklet featuring James Marsh's beautiful artwork along with snipets of info and photos from over the years. I had not heard some of the b-sides before, the piano version of Call In The Night Boy is better than the original, I reckon. Now I finally have a CD version of one of the best Talk Talk tracks ever - It's Getting Late In The Evening. Huge congratulations to Henrik for a well informed, interesting and substantial website. Cheers to Scott in USA also. Slainte (goodbye) from Ireland. |
| Name: scott
struik Website: Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-04-16 13:54:37 Comments: Ronen, Asides Besides has not been released yet. April 19-24 are the target dates for worldwide distribution. The Orang EP, entitled Spoor, is extremely rare. HitIt Records has plans to release an Orang CD in the fall that will include unreleased and remixed material - including the track from Spoor. |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-04-15 23:25:24 Comments: Well I just wanted to know... Was "Asides Besides" released this week? Did someone buy his copy of the almost mythical compilation? That's because I don't see any updates on any of the web pages about this subject, and my local record store never heard about this release (Well, except of the phantom adverts before christmas 1996, that is...) ! Also - Does anybody familiar with an "O"Rang Sampler released by Echo in 1994? I found it not long ago and it has some exclusive tracks not on the album. Is it rare? Thanks for your time, Ronen Preisler. |
| Name: scott Website: Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: chicago Time: 1998-04-10 18:00:46 Comments: The management and distribution issues have been resolved, and the Hollis / Brown / Allinson project will be released - sources say during the first half of May. Not only that, the release WILL be available domestically in the US; on the Resurgence label. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-04-08 12:33:31 Comments: Even more news about the Hollis / Brown / Allinson project ! According to Badlands, the release has now been delayed until the end of April. Does anyone know anything of Dave Allinson ? The only thing I know is from a CD I have by a band named 'Spirit Of Science'. The CD is called 'Sunishta', and it's produced by Phill Brown. Dave Allinson gets a credit for artwork. The whole thing sounds very intriguing ! |
| Name: Kevin
McCormick Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bloomington, IN USA Time: 1998-04-07 14:35:58 Comments: Henrik--re: your NEWS article about the Real Player files. I also had trouble downloading the files, even with the most recent version of Real Player. The solution I found was to note the exact address of each individual file and then use "Open Location" in Real Player to access the files from your site. This seems to work without a problem. |
| Name: Brad Birzer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Helena, Montana Time: 1998-04-06 23:07:23 Comments: Just wanted to follow up on my message from this weekend. I got a reply from Herm at Vinyl Solutions in Grand Rapids, Michigan (Scott--master of the other TT site--has his website linked to it). He will definitely be carrying both ASIDES/BSIDES and the ambient one from Hollis. As his prices were considerably cheaper on the Hollis solo than other places on the web, I assume this will be the case on the forthcoming cds as well. It's certainly worth a look. Brad. |
| Name: Jonas Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Aarhus, Denmark Time: 1998-04-06 09:58:21 Comments: Henrik I'm very interested in the single from "Laughing Stock" That you wrote you wanted to sell, please leave a message here, if you want to sell. Oh and good to hear from you Brendan, I admire you for that discography you made, nice one. Jonas |
| Name: Brendan
Jones Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Sydney, Australia Time: 1998-04-06 06:08:22 Comments: Hi everybody. I know that my (non-) maintentance of my former Talk Talk site was a source of disappointment to many Talk Talk fans. Some took it as a snub, or an insult, and e-mailed me rude messages accordingly. But once I finished my PhD and returned to the "real world", it became increasingly difficult for me to spend time updating the site. As other commitments entered my life, it ultimately became impossible. In no way was it some sort of rejection of the later Talk Talk material! Spirit of Eden and Laughing Stock have to be two of the most remarkable pieces of recorded music ever produced. My passion for Talk Talk is as high as ever! In the end, I could not do justice to the magnificence of Talk Talk by having my site stay in a state of suspended animation, and Scott Struik very kindly accepted my offer to incorporate the material from my site into his site. Thanks to all who appreciated my efforts and understood why my site ground to a halt. Scott and Henrik are carrying on the Talk Talk flame superbly. Having maintained a fan page for three years makes me admire their efforts all the more! Now.... let's hope that Asides Besides really comes out this time! |
| Name: Brad Birzer Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Helena, Montana Time: 1998-04-05 22:25:56 Comments: Henrik--nice job on the news for today. I first purchased the COLOUR OF SPRING in 1987, and I've not missed listening to it on April 5th in the 11 years I've owned it! Also thought people might want to know that CDUNIVERSE (www.cduniverse.com) has a pre-release sale on ASIDES/BSIDES. Supposed to be available, according to the site, April 21. I emailed Herm at Vinyl Solutions in Michigan to see if he'd offer a better price, but haven't heard back yet. Brad. |
| Name: Michael
Green Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: London/Moscow Time: 1998-04-03 22:39:18 Comments: I went to Leeds Uni in 1985. I Bought "Today" two years earlier. TT played at Leeds in 1986. I didn't go. It will always be one of my biggest regrets - and there have been several. Like ' Together Aone' by Crowded House 'The Colour of Spring' will always be one of my favourite albums - an album by a band almost at their peak, but will never quite make the world recognition they desved. |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-04-03 09:44:29 Comments: Two little bits of news for everyone...First of all, my copy of Tim's 'Heligoland' CD has arrived, and I'm still not sure what I think of it... It's nothing like what I expected. Tim's voice is drowned out quite a lot, especially in the first track, 'Creosote and Tar', and the whole EP sounds quite 'tinny' and distorted. It's certainly very interesting though, and I would recommend it - it seems to sound better with each play ! And for my next trick... According to 'Badlands' mail order, the rumoured 2nd Mark Hollis CD is due within the next few weeks. Apparently, it is a three-way project between Mark, Phill Brown, and David Allinson, and Mark's contribution is a piano piece lasting around 15 minutes. They didn't seem to sure about exactly when it was due for release, but they thought it would be around the same time as 'Asides Besides' - they assured me it will definitely be out very soon ! Fingers crossed... |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-03-31 16:22:49 Comments: Re: James. Just what I thought 'Stump' and '5.09' sounds like something made by Orang. None of the 'b-sides' from Laughing Stock will appear on Asides Besides. The alternative version of 'After The Flood' is OK but I prefer the album version. I think the 'box-version' is a little slower isn't it? |
| Name: James
Bambury Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Toronto, Canada Time: 1998-03-30 21:59:25 Comments: re: Stump and 5.09. I've always liked Stump in as kind of a forshadowing of Orang's work (after all, Lee Harris is given part of the writing credit for the track)... As far as 5.09 goes, it's intriguing to listen to some of the parts and sounds outside of their song contexts...but I think the concept of constructing a piece out of existing sounds may have worked better if were handed to someone else to try remixing (Like Alex Patterson for instance---a bit of wishfull thinking). . Now in the same set of b-sides, what does everyone think of the alternate take of "After the Flood"? Speaking only for myself, I can see how it doesn't quite gel with the rest of the album (hence the more laidback version on the LP) although I'm tempted to think that the LP version of Flood just *might* have been sweetened by ending it on the "bridge" section like the single version instead of going back to the main theme (of course the song would have to have been shorter...hrmmm). . By the way, will any/all of these pieces be on Asides Besides? |
| Name: Kevin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-03-30 16:29:17 Comments: Hey, what's up with the chatroom? Is it working? Is anyone ever in there? I always find myself to be the only guest. And recently it hasn't been working for me at all. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-03-29 20:57:18 Comments: Re: Paul and Kevin. Of the two "new" b-sides from Laughing Stock I like 'Stump' the best but I'm not too enthusiastic about any of them. They feel too constructed, if you know what I mean. It feels good to own the box though I had to pay app. 75$ for it from CDNOW including duty and tax. I already had the box and the first CD so the two last CD's were quite expensive. This means I have the box incl. the first CD for sale or swap if anyone's interested. After having listened very carefully to 'Stump' and '5.09' I've come to the conclusion that at least '5.09' (and maybe both) were created in the studio without recording additional material. Take for example '5.09'. The strange guitar-riff throughout the track (it starts at 0.50 mins) is the riff from 'New Grass' played backwards!!! (If you don't believe try to sample it and play it backwards). The harmonica and background noise starting 1.40 mins is from 'Taphead'. The strange squeaking noise at 2.28 mins is from 'Myrrhman'. The drums and harmonica starting at 2.50 mins is from 'Taphead'. The noise from 3.17 to 4.30 mins is two saxophones played with the difference of half a note by Mark and Tim lifted from 'After The Flood'. The harmonica from 3.35 to 3.39 is from 'Ascension Day' and so on. - Elementary my dear Dr. Watson :-) |
| Name: Kevin Mc Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-03-25 18:46:29 Comments: I think "Stump" is great and reveals a lot about the recording methods used for Eden and Laughing Stock. You can hear Harris just playing through it as if he found a groove and stuck with it. I almost wonder if that drum track was laid first without any other instruments. I particularly like the ending guitar part which sounds like a fork is being stuck into the strings. At least that's the image I have. Hollis plays with the whammy bar like a young kid discovering a new toy. But I think the title of the song is appropriate. It has a very incomplete feel to it. Much in contrast to amazing B-sides like "It's Getting Late." I'd love to get a copy of "5:09." What's it like? Hey Scott could you put a sound file of that on your page? |
| Name: Paul Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle Time: 1998-03-25 17:33:43 Comments: Two questions for everybody ! Does anyone else think that the music in the chorus of 'Dum Dum Girl' sounds quite similar to 'We Close Our Eyes' by Go West ? And... What does everyone think of the Laughing Stock 'extra' tracks, '5:09' and 'Stump' ? To me, these tracks seem to include a selection of sounds from Laughing Stock, although Lee seems to have included a new drum part in 'Stump'. I think the bginning of '5:09' is taken from 'Chameleon Day', but I may be wrong... Does anyone agree ?? |
| Name: Jonas Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-03-20 13:26:46 Comments: Hi, I've just hat a look on the poll results,that you've made. Unfortunally I didn't discover this page before in the beginning of march, so I didn't vote. Let me say, that I'm happy that nobody voted for "Talk Talk," "It's So Serious" and "Dum Dum Girl," which is the least good, they've made. And my hapiness that someone voted on "The Party's Over" (the song not the album). Well anyway in Århus where I live, It's impossible to find "Talking Coulors" and "Naturel History" (the video). Can anyone tell me where I can find those, and some of the singles? |
| Name: Henrik H. Aakjaer Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-03-19 23:50:03 Comments: I'm happy to see that peace have been restored. :-) All three websites serve different purposes and that's the way it should be! Regarding 'Sketches of Spain' by Miles Davis/Gil Evans I've bought it and I really enjoy it. There's really a lot to dive into and it really is worth considering if you're into later Hollis/TT. Other albums I've purchased on recommendation from Mark Hollis includes 'Porgy and Bess' another Davis/Evans collaboration. ('Sketches' and 'Porgy' are supposed to be Hollis' two favourite albums ever. I haven't heard 'Porgy' that much but at the moment I clearly like 'Sketches' the best.), Forever Changes by Love (a great album from the 60's) and Tago Mago by German 70's experimental group Can (also a great album). I've never heard Ornette Coleman, Roland Kirk or some of the contemporary composers Hollis often refers to. Does anybody have recommendations of where to start? -take care, Henrik |
| Name: Steve Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Boston, USA Time: 1998-03-19 14:17:04 Comments: If there happens to be any Hollis/Talk Talk fans in the Boston area, I just received word that the Hollis cd is availlable at Tower records in Burlington (just outside of Boston). They only ordered eight, so you better hurry! Also, thanx to Henrick for all of your time and effort. This is a wonderfull page! Steve |
| Name: James Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Canada Time: 1998-03-18 22:11:19 Comments: Well, sorry if I've ruffled a few feathers here. Scott--I haven't taken the time to look at your site yet so perhaps it was a bit premature to say something that could be taken as a bit of an insult on your work, or of your appreciation of talk talk/hollis etc... Really, i just wanted to rank this site over the australian site, which is admirable, but the fact it hasn't been updated (as mentioned below) and I feel that Brendan is more focused on the earlier period of talk talk as opposed to the later experimental period (but that's just my impression and opinion--though i can't argue with that discography, very thorough). Perhaps it's a matter of timing (considering the new album creates a buzz of dialouge that hasn't existed the last few years, so perhaps a comparison isn't even fair.. now that i've read over my comment, it seems that i lept from complaining so few people in the music listening population "get" the music right into my remark about the sites (not the syllogism i want to imply at all for that matter!)... (what can i say? i'd just learned about the new album and was a little excited) either way, i'll have a little salt with that foot as far as that last comment is concerned... can we drop this now? i'm really thrilled to be engaged in any meaningful dialouge regarding TT et al... i don't think i get any thing about the music than anyone else who has given it a chance. now doesn't anyone have anything to say about "Sketches of Spain" and it's influence on talk talk/hollis? peace, james |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-03-18 17:13:13 Comments: Thankfully it looks like James hasn't succeeded in starting some sort of stupid 'competition' between the excellent Talk Talk websites. I know that I'm not alone in appreciating the fantastic effort that Scott and Henrik have put into the websites - the fact they are different in various ways is a good thing, as there are more ideas, more features, and that is bound to mean more interest. I also know that Brendan worked incredibly hard to put his website together, until his work made it impossible. Keep up the good work - the rest of us are very grateful ! |
| Name: Kevin
McCormick Website: Kevin McCormick Homepage Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bloomington IN Time: 1998-03-18 15:01:18 Comments: In response to James' comment on Laughing Stock, I would be interested to know what it is that you "get" about the album that so few others do not. My sense is that you may personally have had some difficulty convincing others that you know of the value of the album. It most certainly has not gained the wide acceptance that it deserves. However, if you have the time to scroll through the postings on this page I think you'll realize that you are preaching to the converted. And I would guess that we all appreciate the other TT websites as much as this one. They serve different purposes. Furthermore, as a musician and composer I would say that structurally Spirit of Eden is far more cohesive than Laughing Stock and while I would never say that one is better than the other, I don't think you can look at the latter as the pinnacle of TT's development and Eden as merely a stepping stone. It's possible that you have an observation about the album that I haven't considered, so I (and probably others in this forum) would honestly be interested in hearing your understanding of the album. |
| Name: Scott
Struik Website: Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-03-18 01:39:13 Comments: James, since only Brendan and myself have created OTHER Talk Talk pages (not including the one still under construction), could you please tell me how you think that either he and I don't 'get it' in terms of the brilliance of Laughing Stock? Do you assume that because we have pictures of the band, graphics, and multimedia that we can't appreciate later Talk Talk material? I find your implication that I have created a silly 'fan' page to be insulting. Incidently, I equally enjoy and respect all phases of Talk Talk's remarkable history - not just the last three albums. There are many apspects of Talk Talk - including the fact that they were an amazing 'live' band - that perhaps you do not appreciate. |
| Name: James
Bambury Website: still under construction? Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Toronto, Canada Time: 1998-03-17 20:59:44 Comments: Hearing Laughing Stock for the first time in 1994 radically altered by my musical boundaries and tastes, it's easily one of the finest albums recorded, and a shame that few people have heard it, and that even fewer people get it (hence the importance of vital spaces like this page--unlike certain OTHER talk talk pages I can think of-- hats off to you Henrik). This is also my first notice of the Mark Hollis album, which i plan to go purchase just after finishing things up here! But gushing aside, I'd like to hear some other suggestions of music that has presumably influenced or been influenced by Eden&Lauging Stock, (i haven't heard Bark Psychosis--are they worth my time?)... to such a list i'd like to reccomend Miles Davis and Gil Evan's "Sketches of Spain" (and the other colaborations). Think of the first moments of "The Rainbow" expanded into it's own orchestral piece. I also think that Davis' muted trumpet sound and the intervals he used was the mold that Friese-Green was going after for his use of trumpet on Eden. Anyways, i've been looking for this site for a long time... -james |
| Name: Erik Threlfall Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Kilkenny, Ireland Time: 1998-03-16 20:30:58 Comments: Great Website. I've been a huge Talk Talk fan for ten years. Laughing Stock is by far my favourite album. I too would like to congratulate my fellow talk talk fans for voting for 'Its getting late in the evening'. It is such a superb track and it's a shame that it was relegated to b side status thus denying it the wide audience it deserves. I have it on crackly vinyl and I'm hoping that finally the 'besides' double CD will be released and I can hear it in all its crisp digital glory. P.S. Mark's new CD is fantastic !!!!!! |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-03-15 14:46:51 Comments: In answer to Albert's question, according to the reviews I have read, the 'hissing' at the beginning of Myrrhman is the hissing of a guitar amplifier, before the first notes of the track are struck. By the way, well done to Henrik on adding the chatroom ! It makes a great website better still ! |
| Name: Albert Ley Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: Germany Time: 1998-03-14 16:48:34 Comments: Hello you all! Does anybody know what's that sound at the beginning of Myrrhman, the first track of Laughing Stock? |
| Name: Jonas Juul-Lassen Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Denmark Time: 1998-03-11 15:26:30 Comments: Hi out there, it's good to see, that I'm not the only Talk Talk Fan. I've loved them, since I was first introduced in january '96. So I came in a little late. Thank you to my country fellar, for making this site, I'll return soon... |
| Name: John Council Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dallas Time: 1998-03-10 15:48:16 Comments: I really enjoyed the poll. And it's obvious that the respondants are all true Talk Talk fans. How else would you explain the high ranking of "It's getting late in the evening," a B-side that's one of my favorites. Again, I learn I'm not alone in my assessment of Talk Talk greatness. |
| Name: daniel
arkin Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Los Angeles, USA Time: 1998-03-10 04:11:04 Comments: Glad to find this great page! Been heavy into Talk Talk since "Sprit" (still my favorite album). Got the Mark Hollis record & like it alot (Watershed's the best track). However, it's in the same mould as the last couple of Talk Talk records. I would've thought that Mark might've moved on from this sound after 10 years. I miss the aggressiveness of a track like "Desire" & was hoping he would explore that area more. Nevertheless, I'm so happy that something's come out by Mark, who along with Big Country is one of my heroes for not following trends, fashion or any of that superficial bullshit. Let the music do the talking, not the image. Also, no one's mentioned the Orang records by Lee & Paul. They're excellent soundscapes & I highly recommend them! P.S. I've gotten into Roland Kirk thanks to Mark...thanks Mark! |
| Name: john s. Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-03-09 10:52:31 Comments: re: Nigel Reeve (EMI) - but 'Laughing Stock' is in the racks mate. Try to keep up! |
| Name: Eric Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Toronto Time: 1998-03-08 05:42:15 Comments: Hi there, I'm doing a visual project for school and thinking of basing it around the lyrics for The Rainbow/Eden/Desire and I was wondering if any of you know who the Jimmy Finn is that Hollis is referring to in The Rainbow. Please email me if you know. Thanks |
| Name: NIGEL REEVE Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: EMI Time: 1998-03-07 20:51:16 Comments: I on behalf of EMI am doing the best job we can on the EMI Talk Talk catalogue within the restrictions placed on us by Mark. Why don't you have a go at Polygram. I don't see Laughing Stock in the racks!!!! |
| Name: terje
rendalsvik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: norwaw Time: 1998-03-07 19:44:38 Comments: by accident-or whatever i came across this page. I have bought the new cd by mark hollis and its so fantastic! This is real music-silence and the space between the notes- the devine feeling. i compose music myself and know im so inspired, i finally see how i shall make my music |
| Name: Scott
Struik Website: Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-03-07 16:08:01 Comments: The promo of Asides and Bsides is out, and a commercial release is on the way soon. The second Hollis CD, entitled A/V Installation, has been cancelled for now. More info on these items, as well as a track listing for As & Bs, at my site. |
| Name: Jim
Everson Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: San Francisco Time: 1998-03-07 03:01:30 Comments: I would just like to say thanks to this web site for the very cool Mark Hollis Poll. And thanks to everyone who participated. I really enjoyed the alternate album selections. I now have a cool list of new music to try. Also, I noticed that, of all the recordings I was familiar with already, any of them would be welcome on my CD player. There isn't a loser album in that whole list! Now I know what I've long suspected...Hollis fans are the coolest. I've also noticed that there are no "half way" fans. Talk Talk's music is either a staple in your life or it is nothing. Jim |
| Name: Alberto Stanzani Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Italy Time: 1998-03-06 22:04:22 Comments: Mark Hollis, this record...how I can describe the mood I feel in this moment? The bassline in "Watershed" is dropping on my mind...but...why, Mark, an italian cake on the picture cover? A 'animal' without life? A gift? A fond memory of something we used to know? A "final cut" with ...what...? |
| Name: dirk Website: Referred by: Word of Mouth From: netherlands Time: 1998-03-06 11:27:21 Comments: It may hardly come as a surprise when I join all of you in saying that Mark Hollis has given us a unique piece of music. What I am interested in, is some of the (philosophical) ideas behind the music Hollis has composed. Or does it just come straight from the heart? Anyway, whenever mr Hollis might surf into this page I would just like to say thank you for this beautiful piece of art, and go on with enjoying what you are doing. dirk |
| Name: Ricardo
Lopez DeCano Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Miami Time: 1998-03-04 04:31:07 Comments: Well, I envy you guys in Europe. My copy of Mark Hollis' new album is on backorder! I just can't believe that I'm not the only one that has felt this way about this man's art all along. I'm a painter and always play Talk Talk as background music- mostly "Spirit" or "Laughing Stock". Like most of you I'm a dreamer and can see my work on one of Mark's future albums. Yeah right! Mark, if your ever in the States, you can pick out any of my paintings as a gift for all the gifts you've given me. Stay health, the last pictures I've seen of you you looked frail. |
| Name: scott
struik Website: Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: chicago Time: 1998-03-03 01:52:43 Comments: Talk Talk's Asides and Bsides news at my page listed above! No unreleased tracks (except some remixes), but it looks to be a promising release nonetheless. Still no further word on the A/V Installation release.... |
| Name: Calle Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Gothenburg , Sweden Time: 1998-03-02 04:17:53 Comments: It was quite amusing to read through these previous messages and find that apparently Marks music has the same strong impact on all of us who are into it. It seems that one canīt just like Talk Talk/Hollis in a casual sort of way. You simply have to love their music and cherish their records for all time to come. I make music myself and can safely say that noone else has had that strong an influence on me as Hollis ( actually , I think Talk Talk influenced more musicians than the average band). David Sylvian comes as a very close second for me. It strikes me how often I play Spirit/Laughing stock (and now Hollis). A bit too often to be healthy I guess. I wonder what my neighbours think...."doesnīt he ever get tired of that music?...not to mention itīs noisy too!!". Well , Iīm sure everyone here knows the feeling... Seriously , this music represents life itself to me , in a very profound way , and I realize now that words will never be enough to describe it. Just listen. And listen again. Thank you Mark. |
| Name: Thor
Anders Aarhaug Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Norway Time: 1998-03-01 17:05:29 Comments: Hi, Just found this page while listening to "Colour of Spring." I am completely fascinated by the guitar of Robbie M. and was wondering if anyone knew some other interesting contributions. I know he did play on Tasmine Archers debut, but that is not quite my style. Thor Anders |
| Name: Kevin
Hall Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: UK Time: 1998-02-26 23:40:56 Comments: Not since Secrets of the bee hive or Hounds of love have I heard such a beautiful album . Nice to say hi to you all love kev |
| Name: muriel Website: within without Referred by: Alta Vista From: Pau, South France Time: 1998-02-26 11:28:18 Comments: Hi all, First please forgive me for my poor English level. I am not sure to use the right words to talk about M.Hollis new album. Like almost all of you, I have just bought this album. 2 days ago I didn't know anything about it ! Thanks you Netscape ! I have already listened to it a few times, and... I adore ! Amazing ! Not surprised that Mark kept the same style. Same style and so different. So peaceful, so deep, so beautiful. This album sounds like him : wild, charming, very attractive. Ir reminds me "laughing stock". But this time, Mark is alone and seems to be more in peace with himself. He took his time to make it but what a result ! Music takes its real sense. I just forget everything around me when I listen to it, it's a therapy for me. Just sit down, close your eyes and listen. You don't feel the same after that. Talk talk was unique, but now Mark is unique. This guy is a genius. Simply fantastic. If he could just do 7 albums a year instead of 1 album every 7 years, I would be the happiest woman in this bloody world. Mark... Can you hear me ?!!! go on like this, make us share your passion, we will always be grateful. Your first solo album is an unique masterpiece. Nascent, naissant... muriel |
| Name: Keith Lo Bue Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: Pittsburgh, PA Time: 1998-02-25 05:23:58 Comments: Yep, folks, it's true indeed...after a seven year hiatus, Hollis comes back with TWO new releases almost simultaneously! Careful about getting TOO excited, though...although it will surely be great, don't look for Mark to be singing on this one...an informed source said that Hollis plays mostly piano on it, and that it is an instrumental accompaniment to an 'Audio / Visual Installation.' That said, I'm still hankering to get my grubby mitts on it. The voice is only part of a larger picture, and I'm sure it will be excellent. I'll let you know when I get a hold of it. Ciao! Keith |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-02-24 15:26:06 Comments: I managed to find a copy of the American music paper "Goldmine" yesterday, and I noticed an ad for a store which had Mark Hollis's SECOND solo LP for sale !! It is by Mark Hollis and Phill Brown and it is called "A/V Installation". I don't know if this is for real, or just a rumour. Does anyone else know about this LP ? Apparently it is going to be for sale very soon ! |
| Name: david Website: Mark Hollis/solo album Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Ireland Time: 1998-02-23 18:40:21 Comments: a beautiful album from Mark - fragmented ,soul searching ,and original |
| Name: Gilles Website: Concrete Fodder Referred by: Alta Vista From: Switzerland Time: 1998-02-23 17:34:37 Comments: I know, I know, it's been a long wait, but thinking of number of time i played the last two TT cds, I think we're ok with MH new one for some time. Great, always great. Curiously, I feel the last one album as less introverted than the two TT (it's the second listening though). It seems "lighter" (and I don't talk about the skeleton background here). Yeah, we have here the perfect crossing between everything we love...once again. |
| Name: Bradley Birzer Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Helena, Montana Time: 1998-02-21 05:25:57 Comments: A question for the Europeans. I've been thinking about the first three tracks of SPIRIT OF EDEN being one track on the Euro editions. I have the same copy (as I didn't get a CD player until after EMI discontinued the U.S. edition), and it definitely has the look of a progressive rock song (ala YES or old Genesis). I assume Polydor must have thought it was ok to market it that way in Europe in 1988/89, but not in the U.S. Was there, by chance, a resurgence of progressive rock at the time there? Just a question and a thought. Brad. |
| Name: Dan
Morris Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Manchester UK Time: 1998-02-20 20:48:03 Comments: About a week ago I thought I was the only person in the world for whom Laughing Stock was an almost complete expression of beauty in music. I thought I was alone in my conviction that it was the "best" Talk Talk album, if not the best I've ever heard. But I stumbled upon this discussion forum, and Within Without, and all of a sudden life seems a little less lonely, because there are other people for whom this is the case. The new record was one of the few I have bought which upon hearing for the first time I had to put on again. Not to say that it is instantaneously gratifying use-once-and-then-destroy "junk" music, quite the contrary. I will, as with Sprit of Eden, Laughing Stock and The Colour of Spring, still be listening to this in years to come. Anybody who can express themself so completely, so wholly, in such a delicate yet powerful way has a talent beyond price. This record has been worth the wait, this man can truly be proud of his achievement. |
| Name: scott
struik Website: Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: chicago Time: 1998-02-20 17:24:12 Comments: Talking Colours was burned directly from the ultrarare BBC live album. That's why the quality isn't perfect. nice of you to offer the remastered copies! Let's just hope EMI doesn't get wind of that! |
| Name: Bradley F.
Cain Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Manhattan Beach, CA, U.S.A. Time: 1998-02-20 09:52:14 Comments: TALKING COLOURS - The Remaster Project For those who have been lucky enough to find it (myself included), the Talk talk bootleg entitled "Talking Colours" is quite a treat. However... I found it to be quite noisy in parts (especially the quiet Hollis vocals + CP-70 sections [the latter part meant to appeal solely to you fellow gearhead geeks]) and generally lacking punch in some frequencies (namely the bottom end). Also, there were many "pops" and a few dropouts in the recording. <<< SO!!!>>> As I am so inclined, well-equipped and generally able to fix these things myself, I went ahead and remastered the recording (removing much hiss, many annoying pops and the occasional dropout) for no other reason but the personal satisfaction of having improved, IMHO (purists unleash the hounds,) the quality of this rare recording for my archives. But what kind of man would I be not to share? I'd like to find a way to get this great live recording (with my...uh-hum...MODEST improvements) to other fans. Any ideas from the group and / or takers? I'd probably want to trade for blank CD-Rs or other TT boots (if any else exist...???), or even boots of other bands (especially RADIOHEAD). Also, I would gladly send a copy (plus the price of the new album) to anyone who would be willing to personally purchase and send a copy of a few select albums that I can't find in the United States including 1) The new Mark Hollis album and 2) The new Savoy album - "Lackluster Me" (Norwegians line up below). We could each cover shipping our own way. Sound fair, intriguing, anything?!?!? Ahhh.... I'm continually haunted by the piano melody framework in "New Grass" Bradley F. Cain bfcain@ix.netcom.com |
| Name: Eric Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Toronto Time: 1998-02-19 03:46:18 Comments: Let's just say I'm terribly jealous of the rest of you! I read a review of Mark Hollis last week and have been trying to find a copy of it somewhere (anywhere). The album's not available domestically in Canada -- according to one record store it will be and according to another it won't. In most places, the employees just stare at me blankly when I ask about it and if they have heard of it, they had it on import, but are sold out. Anyway, I've been waiting for this for seven years and now there's finally something out and I can't seem to get my hands on it. If any Canadian surfers know for sure if it will be available domestically, please let me know. By the way any does anyone have any comments on 'O'Rang? I have the first album and liked it, but haven't heard any of the second. (I heard they went back to synth pop though.) |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Sheffield, England Time: 1998-02-17 10:37:01 Comments: Henrik, Thanks for putting that Q interview in - I've been after that one for years. It's a great site as well by the way. Regarding Jim Everson's point, I would hazard a guess that EMI absolutely HATED having to market 'Spirit' (they're getting the required result out of "anarchists" Chumbawamba etc. these days). Remember, EMI gave the band and producer a more-or-less total free-reign on 'Spirit' and were comfortably expecting 'Colour Of Spring 2' as the result. You almost have to feel sorry for them for that. The fact that the first side was deliberately written by Hollis and Freise-Greene as one track, (and reflected as such in the track listing) was probably just one of the many factors that led to the eventual demise of that particular relationship, and the nasty situation that blew up over 'History Re-Invented' (as manager Keith Aspden was once known to refer to THAT album.) I would imagine that the re-issued version's track listing has been broken up to fall in line with the music industry's obsession with fitting everything into handy, easily understood bite-sized chunks; and has nothing much to do with Talk Talk. Still, I never put that album in my CD player just to listen to one track, so I guess we fans just might be having the last laugh after all. Take care! |
| Name: Simon
Sleath Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Bristol, England Time: 1998-02-16 14:06:26 Comments: I don't often anticipate a record as much as this one, and I'm delighted with it. If to make music is to embellish on the beauty of pure silence, these compositions accomplish it with ease. Having said that, there's loads of mic hiss going on, which I suppose is just an aspect of the album's strangely raw appeal. Along with Scott Walker's Tilt, this is one of the most absorbing and intriguing records I've heard. |
| Name: Robert
Stewart Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-15 16:53:59 Comments: The new Mark Hollis album is an utterly beautiful piece of work and I know that I will still be playing it in 8 years time when the next Mark Hollis album comes out. Thanks Mark- I believe in You. |
| Name: Keith Lo Bue Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Pittsburgh, PA Time: 1998-02-14 08:57:38 Comments: Good to be in the rarified company of those who appreciate where Hollis/later Talk Talk takes us. I got the Hollis CD about 10 days ago ($23-ouch) and since, have not been able to make it thru a day without spinning it at least once. Like Laughingstock before it, God is in the Details...each listen focuses me in on a different nuance I may have missed the previous 300 times! I feel only a handful of artists can pull this kind of offhand complexity off. Someone you all might do well checking out is Richard Buckner, kind of an american folksier version of Hollis--equally rich and rewarding. More obvious but no less pertinent connections can be made with David Sylvian's "Secrets of the Beehive." I have been a very active DAT tape trader in the last 6 months, and would welcome anyone to send me their lists of tradeable music--I've got a huge list of eclectic things live or out-of-print, including "Talking Colours", the Talk Talk '86 bootleg CD.One question to pose for you all--any guesses as to what the hell we're looking at on the cover of Hollis' album? Kind of like a liver-feline-pastry. Post your guesses! Cheers... |
| Name: scott
struik Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-14 02:46:23 Comments: Regarding the Spirit of Eden tracks: You pretty much have it right. The first side is meant to be one song w/ 3 parts. EMI, in their initial release of the CD, separated the tracks - presumable for ease of selection when listening No telling what the story is on the remastered version..... |
| Name: Jim
Everson Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: San Francisco, CA Time: 1998-02-13 01:43:33 Comments: By the way, has anyone ever noticed that on the Parlophone version of Spirit of Eden, the track listing is somewhat different. It reads like this... •The Rainbow, Eden, Desire •Inheritance •I Believe in You •Wealth. With Eden and Desire as "Subtitles" to Rainbow. The track numbering on my CD player reflects this difference saying their are 4 tracks on the CD. Why two versions? Was this the way Hollis originally scored them? Was EMI too chicken to release an album with only one song on side 1? They certainly play as one song. If Parlophone organized the tracks this way, why wasn't it also done on the recently released digital remastered versions? |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-12 20:50:44 Comments: Dear Robin. About the Q interview try checking the interview section ;-) |
| Name: robin Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: sheffield Time: 1998-02-12 20:18:05 Comments: I would just like to say that Mark Hollis and Talk Talk have made some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard and I'm glad that I now know there are others who feel the same way. Having been a fan since I had the extreme good fortune to see Talk Talk on the final '86 tour, there are a couple of things that I really would not mind owning and would like to ask if anyone can help. One is a transcript of the 1988 'Q" interview - from what I remember it's a corker but I lost the magazine moving between student hell-holes sometime in the early 90's. I don't care about the magazine - just a transcript will do. Secondly, I want the CD single of 'I Beleive in You' for the track 'John Cope'. Yes I know it's on the latest compilation LP, but tracking this down has become a labour of love over the years and I intend to get hold of it one day. Will part with cash (at the right price of course.) Please leave a message in this forum if you can help. By the way, I know at least two people who think 'John Cope' is the best song ever written. A rare masterpeice. I would also like to add that in my opinion, there are no comparisons to be made between 'Spirit', 'Laughing Stock' and now 'Mark Hollis' - they're all perfect! |
| Name: Randy Layton Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: oregon/united states Time: 1998-02-12 06:28:32 Comments: I've had the new Hollis cd for about ten days now, and although i can't say i'm really happy to have waited seven years, it really is incredible! I've played this album probably 12 times already, and it never fails to move me emotionally-much like the prior albums still do-and new nuances and revelations keep popping up. I can only offer one other pop musician who has had this kind of on-going power for me, and that's the Brian Wilson of the Smile/Pet Sounds period. It's only February, but I can't imagine anything else that will be released this year(or probably the next few!) that will have the ability to make me think, cry, smile, and fixtate on the Higher Good than this record. Music can indeed bring forth the breath of God when one as creative as Mark is is able to tap into that "spirit"-and anyone who is able to fling his heart wide open while listening will be rewarded time and again. Thank you, Mark! |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Israel Time: 1998-02-10 23:49:21 Comments: I am looking for some Talk Talk cd singles: 1. It's My Life cd single (1990) 2. Such A Shame cd single (1990) 3. I Believe In You cd single (1988) I am interested in trading for those items. If you have these and would like to trade, Please contact me. Thanks, Ronen Preisler, preisler@netvision.net.il |
| Name: John Council Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Dallas, TX Time: 1998-02-10 22:18:24 Comments: Note to American Talk Talk/Mark Hollis fans. The new Hollis CD can now be ordered from Musicblvd.com and CDnow.com. The CD will set you back $33, but I'm sure it's worth it. Mine's in the mail right now. |
| Name: LEEOLA DUNCAN Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: AUSTRALIA Time: 1998-02-10 15:30:46 Comments: AFTER SO LONG IT WAS WONDERFUL TO HEAR THAT MARK HOLLIS HAD A NEW CD IT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET IN AUSTRALIA AND NO DATE HAS BEEN SET DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT AND IF IT WILL BE RELEASED IN AUST. ALSO I HEARD A LIVE TALK TALK VIDEO IS TO BE RELEASED DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THIS L.DUNCAN |
| Name: John Kroesche Website: Referred by: Other search engine From: Murrieta, CA USA Time: 1998-02-10 02:11:15 Comments: I can't wait to get the new Hollis CD. So far, I have been unable to locate it. Although my favorite album by TALK TALK is "the colour of spring" I am a huge fan of the later recordings as well. I really don't care if it is Talk Talk or Hollis solo. If Hollis is on the record, I am buying it. Thanks, John sprout@pe.net |
| Name: Dom
Lawson Website: Referred by: Alta Vista From: Time: 1998-02-09 15:02:55 Comments: I bought the new Mark Hollis album this morning and I am desperate to get home, smoke a fat joint and sample Mr. H's latest masterpiece. From what I've read so far I will not be disappointed. Seven years is too long, regardless of how painstaking the creative process may be. I don't buy that as an excuse and nor should you. Assuming that the new one is as life-affirming as its two predecessors we should quite reasonably expect more from Mark in the near future. He may be someone I greatly admire, but don't take the piss Mark! |
| Name: Nigel
Gerken Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: Manchester.U.K. Time: 1998-02-08 09:35:17 Comments: Firstly I would just like to say Thanks!!! to Henrik for his obvious hard work and giving me the chance to put my feelings about the group/artist that we all feel so passionately about. How many of you recognise the following ........ this morning I played "Laughing Stock" an album that I have listened to many times and yet still the hairs on the back of my neck "stand up" and I am filled with emotions, this simply has to be a wonderful piece of music which I will still be playing when I am 99 years old. As stated by many others "Spirit" gets into all the charts etc but I think that although it is also a beautiful work it is simply the starterfor "Laughing Stock". Anyone who has not experienced the pleasure should do the following, go to bed (alone if poss) put the c.d. on to the discman, press play, switch off the lights and ENJOY !!!!!. I have just obtained the new Hollis album and am still test driving it, always takes a few plays to "sink in" with me. I would like to hear the thoughts of other T.T./Hollis fans and enjoy trading collectables. Best Regards to you all, Nigel Gerken. |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-08 05:44:10 Comments: Funny with Sisters of Mercy. I saw an interview with Andrew Eldritch on MTV many years ago where he said that they always play Colour of Spring before their shows. |
| Name: Hani Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Toronto Time: 1998-02-07 19:39:47 Comments: Last weekend the Sisters of Mercy, also returning from a seven year absence, played in Toronto. Instead of an opening act, Andrew Eldritch had the club play The Colour of Spring (not an obvious opener to the show). This brought back a flood of emotions and memories, and took me back to my record store to pick up the cd. I didn't even know of a new Mark Hollis album until I found it in the Talk Talk section. That was two days ago, I have yet to make it past the third track, I keep skipping back in awe of the beauty of the composition. |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Israel Time: 1998-02-06 23:03:48 Comments: Well, I went this morning in the town where I live in, after a night shift at work, thinking to myself what a great weekend it could be if I'll be lucky enough to grab the new Hollis cd until Saturday... And it seems my dream came true. I went into the local cd store, looked throgh the "H" section and there it was. Since I got the cd this morning, I already listened to it 4 times. And from time to time it keeps getting better and better. Anyway, when I handed the cd to the guy in the store, he almost fainted. "What?" he said, "are you into Mark Hollis too? and I thought I was the only one around here..." What really surprised me, though, that the cd is an Israeli pressing. I never thought it would be pressed here, and I expected to find the import cd. But the guy in the store told me that the record company pressed about 100 cd's only here, and it won't be available anymore. So I'm glad I had a perfect timing. Well, I'm off now to listen to it again... what an addiction. |
| Name: Lars
Lindberg Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Stockholm, Sweden Time: 1998-02-06 20:42:36 Comments: Well, finally! I've also looked under the "t"-section for years in case a miracle would happen. I've also surfed to Brendan in Oz repeatedly the last couple of years, but unfortunately he never updates... There's no other artist that moves me in the same way as Mark does with his voice. I love the new album, but sometimes I miss the sudden outbursts of noice found on the last two Talk Talk albums. I loved Talk Talk in the eighties as well, and the amazing thing is that the band sort of grew in the same direction as myself, funny isn't it! I listen to a lot of different things these days, especially Brazilian music. You shouldn't miss Jorge Ben's early albums if you get the chance! "Fio Maravilha" Much different to Talk Talk of course but with a very strong melancolic "feel" but still exploding with life. |
| Name: michael
mcclure Website: Referred by: Yahoo! From: ireland Time: 1998-02-06 15:56:48 Comments: Just got the new Mark Hollis album the other day, and it is so good already, such an antidote to much current music, which is great but which can get a little relentless. It's nice to sit and reflect every now and again. Can't wait for the next Sylvian album either. You might want to check out the Signify LP by Porcupine Tree, a good mix of the calming and the odd. |
| Name: Stewart
Black Website: Blurg World Referred by: NewsGroups From: Glasgow, Scotland Time: 1998-02-05 19:13:42 Comments: Please don’t be so hard on the early work, you’ve got to consider the context. Back in the early 80’s in the UK the Punk Explosion was subsiding, making way for the New Wave. You will recall that Punk was a reaction against pretentious overblown music being created by groups who had outstayed their welcome. New musicians were therefore cautious about appearing to be too "serious", in fear of being associated with the old school, and even when they did get serious, it was within the confines of a tight pop song structure. If Talk Talk’s first album in 82 had been, say Spirit of Eden, chances are they wouldn’t have been able to find a recording contract, and their career would probably never have got off the ground, and we therefore may have been robbed of all that marvellous music. Please don’t be hard on It’s My Life, it’s a great intelligent pop album, and certainly one of my favourites from the time. |
| Name: Kevin
McCormick Website: Kevin McCormick Homepage Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Bloomington, IN Time: 1998-02-05 17:14:35 Comments: For those of you looking for an online site to purchase the new album, it is available at the CD@Plato site. Here's the URL: http://mars.plato.nl/plato/bekijk.cfm/75241 |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-05 09:54:05 Comments: It'll soon be possible to save the RealMedia files so they can be played directly from the hard disk drive. It will help people with slow internet connections. |
| Name: scott
struik Website: The Talk Talk Unofficial Home Page Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: chicago Time: 1998-02-04 21:24:19 Comments: Hollis' solo CD (and possible 2nd release featuring Hollis and Phill Brown) will be in US import stores possibly by the end of this week - start of next. I can recommend an excellent source for purchasing: Vinyl Solution in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I used to live in Grand Rapids, and can vouch for their excellent service. It's a huge store, with lots and lots of inventory and mail order stuff. They always get every rare item from our fav artists as well. I seem to remember they had several copies of the Talk Talk Laughing Stock singles box set when it was released some years back. When you call, ask for Herm. Tell him that I referred you. The number is (616) 241-4040. Hope this info is of use. |
| Name: Paul
McIntosh Website: Referred by: Word of Mouth From: Newcastle, England Time: 1998-02-04 18:01:48 Comments: I just want to say that I think Mark Hollis' new album is absolutely superb, and better than I had dared to hope for through that 7 year wait for new material ! Everything about this album is amazing - the instruments sound incredibly real, as if you are there in the studio during recording. Already this is one of my all time favourite albums, along with Laughing Stock and Spirit of Eden. It is difficult to compare this album to the later Talk Talk material. There seems to be less tension, and more of a calm atmosphere. "Watershed" is the outstanding track for me, where the acoustics of the album sound better than ever. If any other fans of Talk Talk and Mark Hollis would like to write to me I would love to hear from you, as it is always good to contact other fans. I have been collecting Talk Talk material for many years now, and I am very keen to find the promo copy of Laughing Stock which includes an interview with Mark Hollis. My computer is not good enough to play the interview included on this website. Thank you to Mark Hollis for writing such a great album - how many other albums are worth waiting 7 years to hear !? |
| Name: Bradley F.
Cain Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-04 10:11:06 Comments: Hey all. Sorry I haven't much to contribute, especially because I CAN'T FIND THE NEW ALBUM!!! Phew... Seriously, you can't imagine how disturbing it is to live in the Los Angeles area with its seemingly endless parade of mega-stores, independent record stores and rare vinyl hunters emporiums (not to mention the recording industry) but not be able to pick up the new Mark Hollis because it's not being distributed domestically in the U.S. I am very frustrated... There IS a market here but Polydor apparantly doesn't have the patience to find us among the MTV garbage and chick-band-du-jour fans. So, if anyone else in the U.S. finds this thing here or knows of a reliable internet / mail-order source, please let me know. And for all those seeking old Talk Talk vinyl, Record Finder on Melrose in Hollywood had many items when I was there just over a month ago (even if they tend to be pricey). If anyone wants more info, I'll post or e-mail privately. Thanks to Henrik and others for giving us a Talk Talk resource and an outlet for venting. Pity me for I have no new Hollis! Enjoying El Nino, Bradley F. Cain bfcain@ix.netcom.com |
| Name: Henrik Website: Within Without Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Time: 1998-02-04 09:59:49 Comments: Ronen, "Nascent" means "beginning to exist" or "being born" - "Naissant" means the same in French. ------ It's very hard for me to pick the best track but in my mind there's no doubt about the best album. If I'm in the right mood nothing will compare to "Laughing Stock". "Spirit" is a close 2nd and "Colour" is not far behind. "Laughing Stock" is simply the best album ever made. Strangely it was "Spirit" which made it into MOJO's top 100 albums of all time and not "Laughing Stock". Mark Hollis' eponymous album is 4th but moving forward. "It's my life" is far behind and "The Party's Over" VERY far behind. There are so many great moments on "Laughing Stock" for example the one note sax solo by Hollis and Friese-Greene and the way Hollis sings "Within Without" on "AfterThe Food". "Myrhmann", "Ascension Day", "Taphead", "New Grass" and "Runeii" are other very moving tracks. I took me over two years to realize that "Laughing Stock" is better than "Spirit" so maybe "Mark Hollis" has a chance in the future. |
| Name: Ronen
Preisler Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Israel Time: 1998-02-04 00:56:17 Comments: My favourite Talk Talk track is "Taphead". It has an amazing (ab)structure and I like very much the tension throughout the music. Yet, I have never understood what Hollis is talking about in the last two words of the song: "Nascent, Naissant". Can anybody enlighten me about this? Thanks, Ronen |
| Name: Brad Birzer Website: Referred by: Talk Talk (unofficial) Homepage From: Helena, Montana Time: 1998-02-02 23:58:33 Comments: Hope this doesn't come across as crass marketing, but I know that Talk Talk fans would be interested. Kevin McCormick, an independent musician in Bloomington, Indiana, has a great CD, "With the Coming of Evening"-- which is heavily influenced by Talk Talk. Though I'm not a musician, I'd classify it musically somewhere between a more ethereal "Colour of Spring" and a more concrete "Spirit of Eden." Lyrically, it's incredible as well--Kevin won national poetry awards while in college. He's currently working on his second CD and about to go into the studio. Kevin sells "With the Coming of Evening" for $15. Write Kevin McCormick, Annus Mirabilis, 2329 Burberry LN, Bloomington, IN 47401. Enjoy. Brad. |
| Name: David
Buch Hansen Website: Referred by: The Ultimate Band List From: Denmark Time: 1998-02-02 22:28:49 Comments: Well, itīs been a long waiting since "Laughing Stock", but it has been worth it. The new Hollis album is delicate listening even though it takes you into a very melancolic mood. But mood is the keyword, in terms of Talk Talk and Hollisī music. My very first experience with the band was a gig in Copenhagen in '84. I was just a schoolboy aged 14, but never the less I was stunned with the way the band captured the audience including myself. From that moment I was simply sold to their music. Since that day I have been collecting all the stuff from Talk Talk I could find, and the search has taken me both to London and New York. It is clear that the band has grown more mature and "deep" over the three last albums, but I am still very hooked on their first releases. They have a very sophisticated popsound, which I have never heard from any bands from that decade. Iīm sorry to read that Hollis is not even speaking with Harris And Webb. What ever happend between them. They always seemed to be a very perfect and homogenic match. Itīs so nice to hear and see what people think about the one band, that I have been concentrating about for so long. I sincerely hope that you guys with the Talk Talk sites will keep up the good work. The band deserves to be known by as many people as possible, and this is one good way to do it. Well, itīs getting late in the evening....so I better quit now! |
| Name: Mark Gaines Website: Referred by: Just Surfed On In! From: Austin,Texas Time: 1998-02-02 04:37:21 Comments: Nice to see that Talk Talk have been given space for discussion and sharing points of view on the band. I have found Mark Hollis and Company to come from a point of view musically that so few muscians seem to even come close to touching,that of the essence of the soul and it's place in our universal language of understanding and communicating with one another besides the frontal approach of brutal ,in your face confrontational approach used by so many recording artist's today.Talk Talk represent the true human element of spiritual contact and vibrational understanding that set them apart from all other types of musical communication.I have yet to Hear Mark's further musical adventure but look forward to obtaining a copy A.S.A.P. My regards to all involved in creating this space to come together to discuss these past and future adventures of a vast musical landscape painted by true masters of the art of music! Best of luck to all involved and much success,Mark with the new album. Mark Gaines |
| Name: scott
struik Website: Referred by: Word of Mouth From: chicago Time: 1998-02-02 02:51:51 Comments: There are now 3 Talk Talk sites on the web, with a 4th one under development. Just 2 months ago there was only one. A true testament to the fact that, though the band is now defunct, the excellence of the music is timeless and still draws people in..... |
| Name: Jim
Everson Website: Referred by: NewsGroups From: San Francisco, CA Time: 1998-02-01 23:11:11 Comments: I have been listening to Talk Talk since their first four song EP (1982?). I always appreciated Talk Talk's courage as they stayed true to their artistic aspirations. I never understood why they were considered a "lesser" band in a music scene dominated by Duran Duran and Franky Goes to Hollywood (ugh!). I know Talk Talk are no longer recording together, but I still can't resist the impulse to check the "T" section at the record store in case a miracle has happened. Now after 7 years, it appears to have happened, at least as far as the new Hollis release is concerned. It would be difficult to pick a best Talk Talk release, in my opinion, though if I had to keep only one I guess it would be Laughing Stock with Color of Spring as a second. I know the early recordings sometimes get a bad rap, but some of the early tracks, like Candy and Tomorrow Started still have the power to heal. Peace and love to all Talk Talk fans. Keep listening. Jim |